Implications of Brexit

[CrazyC]

The fear of the economic consequences was the reason the UK vote was so close. Without that it would have been much higher for leave. It also played a part in the Scottish referendum. Since then the economic case for Scottish independence has massively weakened with the fall in oil prices etc, and in any case it was always scarier than the implications of brexit for the UK. I don't see how Scotland could possibly vote for independence at this point in time. It's why nicola sturgeon is not calling for an immediate referendum but wants to use this as a tool to get a later one.

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[-Acid-]

By the way, most resources can be found in Scottland.

The only resource Scotland has is oil and they want to base their economy on that if they leave.... if they'd left after the last referendum they would have been crippled when the oil prices dropped 6 months ago to the point where they would have been bankrupt. Even once we've left the EU I still think they would vote to stay in the UK.

 

[SpeedGeek]

Long term it will be good for the UK in the end...

+1

Yess two wins in one night bye bye scotland and bye bye EU, England and our partner Wales voted out. I never wanted to leave but with the turks allowed in and our country being told what it can and can not do by people who should have kept their mouths shut the people spoke thank u Obma and Merkel u really know how to upset the English.

Mr. Cameron called in a favor from Mr. Obama on Brexit comment just like he did on Scotland referendum. I think people who voted for leave weren't fooled a bit by this, but Mr. Obama could have handled it more tactfully by saying it was a personal opinion of his instead of an official position of U.S. government. Now, he has some fences to mend... icard

Btw, the founding fathers of USA were strong believers in the right of self-determination of a sovereign democratic country and would never have approved of such a comment (at least not officially).

If there was a second referendum, riots would soon follow I think. This result was reached by democratic process and any effort to reverse it wouldn't go down well. The decision to leave the EU was brought about largely because of the lack of democratic process and people not being able to have there say or points put forward.
Then again, maybe a civil war is what this country needs, it sure would bring about some change pretty fast!

Civil war already happened in 1776. End result = USA...

 

[SaviorX]

1776 = insurrection, not civil war...

It had very little impact on daily life in Britain itself.

 

[Marmes]

people have spoken. Now lets see what happens on parliamnet. If they all agree.

 

[Amon_RA]

No worries, nationalism and economic depression has never resulted into something terrible in Europe. The congratulations from Le Pen, Trump, Wilders don't mean a thing, and are perfectly acceptable. /sarcasm

The EU was founded with the aim of ending bloody wars between neighbours by creating a political and economical union... Stepping out of this gives a clear signal that most people don't realize.

 

[TickledPink]

Merkel showed that she really didn't have a clue and was out of touch with British concerns when she said in response to the vote "This is a blow to Europe and to the European unification process."

When the Maastricht Treaty was signed, it was against the wishes of the majority of the population (or at least those with triple-figure IQs) who were worried that it might just lead to a United States of Europe. That's precisely what Merkel is advocating. How out of touch can you get?

Now they're talking about reform. Had they reformed the freedom of movement, such as putting a cap on net migration into each country, then that may well have been enough. Merkel and her mob clearly didn't think the vote would end up the way it did or they'd have done more during recent negotiations with the UK.

 

[ptyerman]

They are so disconnected from the public it's surprising they function at all. Plus all the distaste and hate of the UK has been emerging since yesterday morning, we are going to be made an example of, no special treaty, etc. France also now demands that the immigrant camps are moved across the channel, why? Go f*ck yourself, you let them in and set up in France in the first place, it's your problem, not the UK's.
The EU is showing it's true colours now, who wants to be part of that?

 

[TickledPink]

Absolutely correct. Anyone entering the EU from outside and seeking asylum is supposed to register with and claim asylum from the country at which they entered the EU. However, they were allowed to wander all the way through Europe and given hope that they'd be able to enter Britain. What should have happened is that they should have been deported from France and returned to point of origin. If they then tried to enter the EU again then they'd be deported again until they followed correct procedures.

It's tough on the countries in Eastern Europe and the Med but those are the rules. You cannot bend them just because they become too inconvenient.

 

[DXZeff]

Yeah, plus we're under no obligation to let them in. International laws state they must seek refuge in "the nearest safe country" and last I checked, at least most of Europe is considered safe and France is quite some way from where they started out.

I never liked how it worked anyway, they'd come here and we'd send them back over the water where they were "free to try again" some other time... Err, how does that work? What a load of rubbish. You can't help wonder what might happen if you tried getting into their country when you weren't supposed to be there, somehow I doubt they'd be so tolerant.

- waits for someone to start with the racist/faschist comments or other generic negative, out of touch reality ignorant crap despite the fact I'm criticizing the system and not the people trying to get in.

 

[tony1999it]

Old people voted to leave and young people to remain ... the future of youngs has been choosed by old people ...

 

[Snoozy]

Although I voted to stay in, it was only a weak vote for in.

The UK should manage well without Euro, the Euro currency is mired in debt levels unsustainable...mainly thanks to Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal why should we get pulled down by them?

The UK has excellent trade links with China, Hong Kong, USA, Australia...let the europeans argue amonst themslves about their financial crises they will end up in within the next few years.

 

[tony1999it]

Although I voted to stay in, it was only a weak vote for in.

The UK should manage well without Euro, the Euro currency is mired in debt levels unsustainable...mainly thanks to Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal why should we get pulled down by them?

The UK has excellent trade links with China, Hong Kong, USA, Australia...let the europeans argue amonst themslves about their financial crises they will end up in within the next few years.

I my opinion UK will end up before with the ScotExit.

 

[Pghulme]

Old people voted to leave and young people to remain ... the future of youngs has been choosed by old people ...

Yep
thats exactly what has happened

 

[tokyoracer]

Old people voted to leave and young people to remain ... the future of youngs has been choosed by old people ...

That's absolute nonsense. Something the media drummed up to stir the hive. I can tell you that almost all the people I work with that I've spoken to that are also in their late teens and early 20s all voted to leave. It's not a matter of age, it's what is best for your interests.

 

[tony1999it]

Old people voted to leave and young people to remain ... the future of youngs has been choosed by old people ...

That's absolute nonsense. Something the media drummed up to stir the hive. I can tell you that almost all the people I work with that I've spoken to that are also in their late teens and early 20s all voted to leave. It's not a matter of age, it's what is best for your interests.

http://time.com/4381878/brexit-generation-gap-older-younger-voters/

 

[javidoom]

Old people voted to leave and young people to remain ... the future of youngs has been choosed by old people ...

Yep
thats exactly what has happened

Yep, this would be true, only if the 51% of old people voting to leave, die tomorrow...

 

[SaviorX]

not sure I follow the implication...

the 16.8% of the UK population who have experienced the EU for decades, and likely remember a time when there was no EU (and just a 'common market') were predominantly for OUT

vs the 9% or so who probably don't even know what the EU does, were IN...

the problem is the 25 and under crowd don't understand what in or out means (literally and figuratively) they are voting for the only thing they've ever known...

 

[DXZeff]

First of all, that's a rather disrespectful statement.

Secondly,

If people don't start properly reading what I've written instead of just skimming over it and making assumptions I shall exclude myself from this board. Probably a little extreme but I've just come away from trouble on another board and I can't be bothered with it any more to be honest.

Yep, I definitely don't exist around here anyway.

I'm out, see you round.

 

[ObjectiveD]

Old people voted to leave and young people to remain ... the future of youngs has been choosed by old people ...

I agree. I work with many 20-30 year olds and the majority voted to remain.
Likewise the elders voted to leave.

According to a bbc article here the age spread is clear.


Whilst I respect everyone's right to an opinion I voted to remain, and like nearly half the country am heartbroken today.