No international shipping! :(

[TroelsDK]

Another item I wanted to bid HIGH money on... "Not shipping to Denmark"

Why is it that people don't offer international shipping? Inside EU there is no requirements for invoices or anything... It would make no difference once at the post office, when buyer is paying for shipment... I don't get it

 

[Templar]

Oh please, no more evil-bay complaints... :double

 

[TroelsDK]

Oh please, no more evil-bay complaints... :double

I thought someone could shed some light on this? I know someone here sells on ebay too...


"Oh please, no more evil-bay complaints" is not really helping me

 

[Chinners]

Actually, I'm seeing this more and more here.

My feeling is that if anything goes wrong in the shipping, i.e. it's lost, it can be a nightmare to sort out. If high postage has been paid, then that's a higher level of refund to pay out. Here, we can sort things out however. Other places, you're in the hands of a faceless organisation.

 

[arnljot]

e-bay is a much bigger arena than this bay. So I guess people there with paypal and all involved feel they have to protect them selves against anonymous evil doing buyers?

... I would be nervous using that site, but I've used it once (A2000 030 accellerator I sold). Worked like a charm, but if the buyer had started making complaints over in Canada, and with Paypal as payment method. I'd be an accellerator out of pocket...

So I sell here. To people I more or less know, and who know me.

And if it's something I've really wanted. I've even used this board to ask if someone in the country where the item is being sold will buy it for me. And in the US I've used something called jetcarrier which gives me a US mailbox that automatically forwards mail to norway, even big packages.

So there is always a way. Depending on what you are willing to do.

 

[Chinners]

but if the buyer had started making complaints over in Canada, and with Paypal as payment method. I'd be an accelerator

AND Postage

out of pocket...

 

[TroelsDK]

Thanks for inputs.

It still ****es me of though.. If the item is damgaged or not working I'm still obligated to ship it back with proof.. Isn't there someway of only accepting bidders with xx positive feedback? Is amibay really that more secured from phonys if they really wanted to scam someone?

 

[Chinners]

Thanks for inputs.

It still <annoys me> though.. If the item is damgaged or not working I'm still obligated to ship it back with proof.. Isn't there someway of only accepting bidders with xx positive feedback? Is amibay really that more secured from phonys if they really wanted to scam someone?

True, if an item was damaged, it needs to be returned. It still, however leaves the seller out of pocket on a higher overseas postal cost than a local postal cost.

If the item went missing in the post, which is the main point I wanted to make, then there is no "returnable proof", and claiming back compensation from Royal Mail is a waste of time, usually resulting in a "no", or, at most receiving a few stamps.

This has happened to me a few times by reputable buyers, and I now usually just issue a refund and cut my losses. Unfortunately, this has meant an end to overseas shipping on the other bay for me. Here is totally different, I can control the sale more, and feel I can trust most buyers (and sellers) to a much higher level, and ultimately decide whether I wish to trade with someone or not.

There is no way, on certain other sites, of blocking buyers with less than xx feedback - mainly as this would prevent new buyers joining, thus harming their sales. The shareholders would never allow it! (ok, there is a less than -1 option...)

I wasn't mentioning scammers at all, and think that is a totally different issue.

 

[mes83]

I've been in the excact same situation even here on the trusted bay.

I also fail to see the problem, if the buyer is willing to take the risk, then everything should be okay, shouldn't it?

 

[SkydivinGirl]

Personally, I will not sell something Internationally unless payment is sent to me via PayPal Gift or regular PayPal if the buyer is paying for a type of shipping service with International tracking. I find that the International tracking costs an arm and a leg so most people are unwilling to pay for it.

Another problem when I ship internationally is that I have to fill out extra paperwork for customs and I have to physically take it to the Post Office to pay, even though I can print the actual label at home. All of this equates to more time and cost on my part in order to sell something Internationally.

Since it's the seller's prerogative to limit shipping to specific locations, there's no use complaining about it.

Heather

 

[NJRoadfan]

Another problem when I ship internationally is that I have to fill out extra paperwork for customs and I have to physically take it to the Post Office to pay, even though I can print the actual label at home. All of this equates to more time and cost on my part in order to sell something Internationally.

Since it's the seller's prerogative to limit shipping to specific locations, there's no use complaining about it.

Those customs forms are very annoying. I will ship internationally, but it has to be small stuff. The big stuff costs a lot in postage, plus its more likely to be damaged in transit. I also don't sell on that big other-bay site because of their "buyer friendly" policies. If I did, there would be no international shipping at all, particularly because of their "International Shipping Program" game and blocking of certain US item listings on their international sites.

 

[limboy777]

Ive sold lots of stuff internationally even whole CRT monitors and computer systems. I make sure I get the insurance and also pack everything so if it drops down the stairs it wont break

 

[SkydivinGirl]

The insurance is not too expensive, but International Tracking seems to add at least $30 on to the shipping costs from the USA, even on small items. That additional fee usually puts people off from tracking so anything I send overseas without it might get lost. I certainly won't eat the cost of a package without tracking if it does.

Heather

 

[arnljot]

Same with Norway, tracking is expensive. And they don't guarantee that it works in every country. Then it's only "singned for" parcels they will guarantee tracking for, and that's even more expensive.

Norwegian posts offers
Letters (no tracking, fairly large items might be sent as letter. To certain countries, this method is "Lotto" in terms of the shipment getting there)
Parcel (has tracking, but doesn't guarantee that the recipient has to sign for it in all countries)
International signed for (has tracking, recipient must id himself and sign upon receipt)

In addition to this, each parcel type has a default insurance, and additional insurance can be bought. Basically, the letter only is insured for postage. Parcel a bit more, and signed for a bit more above that...

Depending on the item being shipped, insurance might be smart.

 

[Paul_s]

I've got someone on eBay who wants me to ship an 80kg oven to him despite me listing the bloody thing as collection only. I hate eBay - just too much hassle!

I'll use that Amibay instead - so who wants an oven?

 

[DutchinUSA]

Can you ship that oven overseas please?

 

[direktorn]

Another item I wanted to bid HIGH money on... "Not shipping to Denmark"

Why is it that people don't offer international shipping? Inside EU there is no requirements for invoices or anything... It would make no difference once at the post office, when buyer is paying for shipment... I don't get it

So you can spend time here complaining but not time sending the seller a PM?

 

[direktorn]

Same with Norway, tracking is expensive..

Same here, Sweden, Norway and Denmark are one of the most expensive countries in the world. I've also noticerd the oposite, reciving parcels can be a lottery. Most international shipments are routed to the incumbent post at an international hub, from there you have no idea what "product" it will be shipped at.

• One package where delivered with Express door delivery, someone from the Swedish post where here 08.40AM, signed for
• Another package where delivered with "corporate delivery", the standard product for corporation, including signing.
• Another package where routed to the post-office
• Another package where routed to my mailbox but where to large so re-routed to the post office.

All these where Russia/EU/US deliveries and none had a price over 30 euro, but a way different delivery product. Now If I'd want to deliver a package abroad the pricing range starts around 50 euro. Interesting math here..

 

[Paul_s]

Can you ship that oven overseas please?

I can if you arrange collection/packaging Oh and it runs on 240v so it might explode when you plug it in... that's presuming
the glass front survived its journey over the seven seas

 

[BrooksterMax]

I will generally ship small things of low value internationally. However I just don't want the risk of losing big money on a lost parcel. You get a double hit, a customer with no goods that you can't get back and a refund claim.

It's easier to manage losses for domestic shipping as the transit is local and should be easier to rectify.

I understand the frustration because as a buyer I want the seller to ship to the UK!