Q: Amiga PCI Solutions

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The voodoo is faster than the Radeon?? That must surely be driver.

But when it comes to Warp3d support I understand it's only available on the Voodoo due to grievances between Elbox and the warp developers. Perhaps even on just some versions?

I was looking for the vgr link, but archive.org is down right now.
 
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Driver or not, the Radeon has terrible support RE drivers, even by todays standards with 4870 X2 & GTX295 comparisons. STB (Voodoo) were bought out by nVidia some years ago & was a shame in some respects.
Voodoo 6 had more memory Bandwith than nVidias ti 4800 Graphics cards. Considering the voodoo used SD ram & nVidia's ti 4800 series had DDR2, you still have to think nVidia lost the plot somewhere, particulary in face of Voodoo SLI (Scan Line Interleaving) & nVidias poor effort of SLI (Scaleable Link Interface).
Hardly scaleable at all untill the GeForce 9600 cards appeared & now much better with the 200 series. Still CPU bound though & yet GPU's were not suppose to require CPU input to perform.
Funny how the Industry gets away with these lies & trip me off on a rambling waffle. :roll:

That aside, good luck setting the Radeon up. Getting it to work is one thing, but configuring the Software to acheive the best display possible is a nightmare & you could end blowing your Monitor to bits if not carefully observing your Monitors capabilities.

Kin
 
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The card arrived today. It seems to be a pretty standard sapphire card, allthoug beefier than anyother Radeon PCI card I've seen.

By this I mean that it doesn't seem to be hacked or altered in anyway by Elbox, and googling for it's SKU, PN and/or Name does only give up two interesing hits. One is for a card with matching PN but different picture. One is for a card with maching name and picture but different SKU.

Annieehju... I'll be playing with this soon, and will report back on what I find.
 
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Voodoos are better since best, well-proven drivers. Poor Linux drivers are the problem with the Radeon card, afaik. :/
 
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I know that Voodoo's are better due to the mature drivers.

But here's my reasoning for buying the Radeon:

1) It has more memory. 128MB vs. 16MB, this should in theory mean more colors and bigger resolutions.
2) It's a new card, so it should run cooler. This is a major point. The Voodoo3000 is useless it runs so hot. I've confirmed this with two other cards, running them in a PC too. This makes four cards in total. Talking with a "WinIntel" friend of mine has it confirmed. Historically these cards needs extra cooling, passive cooling on the Voodoo3 3000 is not enough. However the Voodoo3 2000 should be a peach and a cool customer.
3) It can be done, so it has to be tested and reported on to the community! :)

Atm I'm using one laptop to prepare a DVD with AROS and a CF card for the Mediator A4000. I'll try to work with one hand on AROS and the other hand on Radeon and Mediator :-)
 
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I can't tell since I have a Voodoo 3 3000 (32Mb). But it runs hotter than an overclocked XC 040. :woot:

I had to install two fans to cool it down and had to made the power regulator cooler, too.

Other than that and the Voodoo become nuclear! :thumbsdown:
 
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How did u cool the power regulator?
 
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Arnljot,

It isn't the Voodoo chip itself that gets hot. Its the damned Voltage Regulator that does. The heatsink that is bolted to the Reg will take your skin off, it gets that hot! :shock:
All Voodoo 3000 Cards are passively cooled by default, including AGP variants.

Kin
 
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So what to do Kin?
 
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Put a Fan on the Voodoo Chip Heatsink to disperse the heat generated on the Regulator! :thumbsup:

Or a small Fan in the Case side to blow over the Voodoo card itself. :wink:

Kin
 
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That's a 10x10mm fan? :-)

I was looking on the net for those small fans which one can mount on the side of a pcb to blow air along it. But I couldn't remember what they are called or where I saw them way back when in 1999.
 
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For like a mobile put where you want fan...this is a gem!

Linky

Kin
 
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I've ordered one of those now. Lets see how it fare.
 
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Even though it's been brought up elsewhere. I think this is the appropriate thread to discuss it.

WHAT IS IT WITH THE VOODOO 5500?? :sigh:

Hehe, hups, that came out harsher than I meant it. :-)

This is what I think I know about it, and please correct me if I'm wrong.

1) It costs an arm and a leg compared to much amiga retro gear.
2) Yes it supports higher resolutions at greater depths
3) But Warp3D isn't supported on it, Warp3d is Voodoo3 2000 and 3000

Now, am I right? Please I need to know :woot:
 
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Dunno about Warp & tbh, that's prolly cr4p! - Voodoo is voodoo! :thumbsup:

Voodoo 5500 is not as Chuggy as Voodoo 3000 when running 1600 x 1200, easy as, & apparently, only one of the Voodoo 5500 Chips is being used!!

I expect that is due to the Memory Bandwith available accross the 5500 Board! :D

Kin
 
AH...

AH...

Kin Hell said:
Ethernet card will NOT work without the Voodoo Card installed & functional. The ethernet card uses some of the Voodoo cards RAM to buffer from! :wink:

Kin
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Hi I have a question about this! I think I made a mistake ! I recently bought a mediator and Ethernet card for my 4000D and I havent got around to installing it yet. Thing is I already have a Picasso 4 installed and dont really want to use a voodoo 3. Without it is there no way to use the ethernet card ? If I got a voodoo card can does it HAVE to be a voodoo 3 ?

Thanks
 
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If i am not mistaken, the reason you need a grahpics card in an A1200 PCI solution is to provide a DMA buffer area for DMA cards, as the A1200 doesn't have DMA across the Zorro / PCI bus.

The A4000 is different, as Z3 provides DMA channels, by rights you should not have any problem with a 10/100 PCI network card on an A4000, but as always double check the manual.

Also Elbox are usually pretty good with support, so if you have any probs drop'em a line or email =)
 
Even if you need to have the card there (I think you do), you don't have to use it. Unless we're talking desktop A4000 on which the Mediator doesn't provide the Video slot :-/
 
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