Review: CoinOps5 for XBOX
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SMS was the old 8bit console, Sonic came out on the Genesis (Megadrive). I've seen some pirate conversions for the SMS, but I don't think there was ever a offical release for it.
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Sonic was on the SMS and was a built in game on some of the model 2 systems.
I think what keropi was saying is that Coinops 5 doesn't include the Sega Master System versions of Sonic The Hedgehog. Justin's picture shows the Sonic versions as Megadrive and there is a difference in the two.
Couldn't comment on the Wonderboy though
I think what keropi was saying is that Coinops 5 doesn't include the Sega Master System versions of Sonic The Hedgehog. Justin's picture shows the Sonic versions as Megadrive and there is a difference in the two.
Couldn't comment on the Wonderboy though
^ correct.
There are original sonic games for the sms. SEGA made 3 arcade games for the 8bit Master System : Sonic, Sonic 2 and Sonic Chaos , all of them are a different game from the 16bit version, they are not dumbed down conversions.
On the PCE there is Wonderboy in Moster Land AKA Bikkuriman World. It's a faithfull convertion in par with the arcade release. The Wonderboy series are a name mess due to region re-naming, the megadrive never had the PCE's Monsterland or Dragon Curse games, even if the names match.
Now don't get me wrong, but along with the turrican misses I became a little sad. You can't have a ~70GB collection with GBA or PSX games that don't run at full speed on normal xbox consoles and miss some true classics. It is certain that some more might missing too... I'm not being ungratefull but ... missing sonic games? Come on....
There are original sonic games for the sms. SEGA made 3 arcade games for the 8bit Master System : Sonic, Sonic 2 and Sonic Chaos , all of them are a different game from the 16bit version, they are not dumbed down conversions.
On the PCE there is Wonderboy in Moster Land AKA Bikkuriman World. It's a faithfull convertion in par with the arcade release. The Wonderboy series are a name mess due to region re-naming, the megadrive never had the PCE's Monsterland or Dragon Curse games, even if the names match.
Now don't get me wrong, but along with the turrican misses I became a little sad.
You can't have a ~70GB collection with GBA or PSX games that don't run at full speed on normal xbox consoles and miss some true classics. It is certain that some more might missing too... I'm not being ungratefull but ... missing sonic games? Come on....
you are not alone in your oppinions about coinops.
thats why i also include other emulators along side coinops for the people who want as many games as possible.
BP tends to add the games he thinks are needed and work best.
But to be fair he does open up a forum post speciffically top ask people what they would like to see added to current or next versions.
what used to happen is people would add more roms to coinops and re release them, and then when something went wrong people asked BP how to fix it. bp got fed up with this so he locks coinops down. you can usually still add your own roms provided they match the rom list. but there is a set amount minimum and maximum that have to be/ can be, added.
so personaly i never bother. the way i see it most of my xboxes go to others, if they want help from BP then its better for them if coinops is as inteneded.
so instead they get CDX which is just a front end with a bunch of emulators on it and i put a bunch of roms on that.
i dont mcuh bother with psx but i do usually add it. but the support for games with that is prety low so i try to avoid recomending it.
thats why i also include other emulators along side coinops for the people who want as many games as possible.
BP tends to add the games he thinks are needed and work best.
But to be fair he does open up a forum post speciffically top ask people what they would like to see added to current or next versions.
what used to happen is people would add more roms to coinops and re release them, and then when something went wrong people asked BP how to fix it. bp got fed up with this so he locks coinops down. you can usually still add your own roms provided they match the rom list. but there is a set amount minimum and maximum that have to be/ can be, added.
so personaly i never bother. the way i see it most of my xboxes go to others, if they want help from BP then its better for them if coinops is as inteneded.
so instead they get CDX which is just a front end with a bunch of emulators on it and i put a bunch of roms on that.
i dont mcuh bother with psx but i do usually add it. but the support for games with that is prety low so i try to avoid recomending it.
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Never really knew why he added locks until now. I can see problems in psx/n64/mame emus but on the other consoles locks are pretty much useless. I always thought it was a programmer's eccentricity.
At any rate I do have installed Madmab's emus + Ressurection Extras , they are just awesome with full sets but nowhere as flashy as CoinOps even with the video packs... but they do add more user options/customization. You can't have all I guess
Never really knew why he added locks until now. I can see problems in psx/n64/mame emus but on the other consoles locks are pretty much useless. I always thought it was a programmer's eccentricity.
At any rate I do have installed Madmab's emus + Ressurection Extras , they are just awesome with full sets but nowhere as flashy as CoinOps even with the video packs... but they do add more user options/customization. You can't have all I guess
well madmab and coinops both started the same place Bp says they stole lots of his stuff. and he gets Angry about it, i mean seriously angry lol..
go to his forum and mention emus extras or similar and your going to get banned.
now you have 2 camps really madmab and coinops. and the fans of each hate the fans of the other. which is stupid in my books lol.
I have no probs using both.
coinops does a lot of work making games that wont work on an emulator on the xbox work.
and then have locks. and a relitivly paranoid (although probably justyfied to be) developer.
and madmab just wants every one to have everything they can have. and download all the bells and whistles later if they want to..
the main problem that coinops has is where it gets released.
it really needs a dedicated server just about 100Gb would be enough, and host it there,
just rename the .zip or .rar to .int or something. then users could download it and rename it.
if they did that and had a small donation option there would be plenty of people who would then use coinops.
but with the way it is now. some people just wont use coinops on the principal that its on a private tracker.
thats ok for people like me who apparantly have fans on these sites that will just give me bandwidth because i forgot to log in for 5 months.
but for others who may not be as umm outspoken? in the xbox-scene then they usually get banned for trying to download and then they get really really angry.
and then the second thing i say coinops should do, and i have told Bp this.
is release a update standalone. just like the standalone they have now. but also comes with all the extra games.
that way people who ad coinops 4 would only need to download say a 10Gb file and ftp that over the top of coinops 4 to be updated to coinops 5 with all the extras.
because if im honest..
im not a huge fan of downloading 50-60gb of data at 300Kb's every 6 to 12 months.
And 1st thing you finish downloading one you will see bp is thinking about the next one.
so all you can do is hope it takes him 18 months atleast lol.
go to his forum and mention emus extras or similar and your going to get banned.
now you have 2 camps really madmab and coinops. and the fans of each hate the fans of the other. which is stupid in my books lol.
I have no probs using both.
coinops does a lot of work making games that wont work on an emulator on the xbox work.
and then have locks. and a relitivly paranoid (although probably justyfied to be) developer.
and madmab just wants every one to have everything they can have. and download all the bells and whistles later if they want to..
the main problem that coinops has is where it gets released.
it really needs a dedicated server just about 100Gb would be enough, and host it there,
just rename the .zip or .rar to .int or something. then users could download it and rename it.
if they did that and had a small donation option there would be plenty of people who would then use coinops.
but with the way it is now. some people just wont use coinops on the principal that its on a private tracker.
thats ok for people like me who apparantly have fans on these sites that will just give me bandwidth because i forgot to log in for 5 months.
but for others who may not be as umm outspoken? in the xbox-scene then they usually get banned for trying to download and then they get really really angry.
and then the second thing i say coinops should do, and i have told Bp this.
is release a update standalone. just like the standalone they have now. but also comes with all the extra games.
that way people who ad coinops 4 would only need to download say a 10Gb file and ftp that over the top of coinops 4 to be updated to coinops 5 with all the extras.
because if im honest..
im not a huge fan of downloading 50-60gb of data at 300Kb's every 6 to 12 months.
And 1st thing you finish downloading one you will see bp is thinking about the next one.
so all you can do is hope it takes him 18 months atleast lol.
just my 2 cents, but if it isn't a money issue you will be better putting a pc on that cabinet... there are way flashier guis on pcs and a huge gap nowdays on horsepower... the xbox IMHO is "too little" for a cabinet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEgaqXsavYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr0ZRpGt_vQ
I tried setting up hyperspin once. Yes, it is flashy but when it comes to browsing a ginormous archive of thousands of games... it is just not convenient enough for me.
Coinops has VERY nice gui coupled with awesome filtering system and it is all ready and already set up needing just one download, extraction and transfer.
Hyperspin just kind of chokes... you can´t conveniently browse a very large amount of roms with it. And you need to tinker a lot to set it up such that it has all those video intros and everything. And you might end up looking at a windows desktop on cabinet at some point which would be herecy.
But for now it looks like I´ll just use a neo motherboard and a multigame cartridge to get me started.
But compared to that I tend to think coinops would bring quite a nice variety.
Hyperspin looks like something that would be nice if there´s only like less than 100 games per platform on the list.
Like in that video. If you have only one or two games starting with any given letter, then it looks nice. In my list there would be a couple hundred games beginning with a number before we even get to games starting with A... and five prototype/bootleg/original/different region versions of each game. It would become very hard to browse very fast
Coinops has VERY nice gui coupled with awesome filtering system and it is all ready and already set up needing just one download, extraction and transfer.
Hyperspin just kind of chokes... you can´t conveniently browse a very large amount of roms with it. And you need to tinker a lot to set it up such that it has all those video intros and everything. And you might end up looking at a windows desktop on cabinet at some point which would be herecy.
But for now it looks like I´ll just use a neo motherboard and a multigame cartridge to get me started.
But compared to that I tend to think coinops would bring quite a nice variety.Hyperspin looks like something that would be nice if there´s only like less than 100 games per platform on the list.
Like in that video. If you have only one or two games starting with any given letter, then it looks nice. In my list there would be a couple hundred games beginning with a number before we even get to games starting with A... and five prototype/bootleg/original/different region versions of each game. It would become very hard to browse very fast
my mame build (postponed since forever)
never boots to a windows desktop. "just opens straight to the mame gui" and even the windows boot screen i changed to say MAME, and its own snazzy little pic.
if i ever needed to do something windows like. i would need to ctrl alt delete and start explorer.exe
so having it act properly is not a problem.
although i will admit some of the front ends are a pain in the butt to set up properly, and the better ones tend to want money for what is generally just a customizable browser.
the only reall reason i wanted a front end instead of boot directly to mame was so i could easily select game consoles from the same front end.
never boots to a windows desktop. "just opens straight to the mame gui" and even the windows boot screen i changed to say MAME, and its own snazzy little pic.
if i ever needed to do something windows like. i would need to ctrl alt delete and start explorer.exe
so having it act properly is not a problem.
although i will admit some of the front ends are a pain in the butt to set up properly, and the better ones tend to want money for what is generally just a customizable browser.
the only reall reason i wanted a front end instead of boot directly to mame was so i could easily select game consoles from the same front end.
I'm slowly working on updating my mame cab, it's got a 27" d9200 multisync monitor, and currently I have a old 865 P4 system with the original arcade vga card driving it.
The new system I'm slowly working on is a i3 with a Radeon 4350 card running groovymame.
My cab is pretty complex with dual act labs optical light guns, (I know the aim track guns are around and much better, but I'm short on cash.)
Spinner, trackball, currently 4/8 way switchable joys, but I have the 49 ways with controllers to change out when I get the software configured.
The cab currently has mamewah as a frontend, but with the new one I'm trying to switch to hyperspin.
I did grab a copy of coinops 5 and stuck it on my sons xbox, he loves the old games. (He's 13.)
Later,
dabone
The new system I'm slowly working on is a i3 with a Radeon 4350 card running groovymame.
My cab is pretty complex with dual act labs optical light guns, (I know the aim track guns are around and much better, but I'm short on cash.)
Spinner, trackball, currently 4/8 way switchable joys, but I have the 49 ways with controllers to change out when I get the software configured.
The cab currently has mamewah as a frontend, but with the new one I'm trying to switch to hyperspin.
I did grab a copy of coinops 5 and stuck it on my sons xbox, he loves the old games. (He's 13.)
Later,
dabone
I need help finding a C64 game in Coinops (if it's there. not so many C64 games) , it's
got two games in the series (I and II).
You go in with destroyers (boats) into a reef an get shot at in part two i think u avoid torpedoes,
Then u get to shoot down planes with an AA gun from the ship.
It's a really high profile game, the name just slipped my mind, can someone please help me.
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It was bech head, great game. Too bad it isn't in Coinops though.
got two games in the series (I and II).
You go in with destroyers (boats) into a reef an get shot at in part two i think u avoid torpedoes,
Then u get to shoot down planes with an AA gun from the ship.
It's a really high profile game, the name just slipped my mind, can someone please help me.
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It was bech head, great game. Too bad it isn't in Coinops though.
Have fond memories of that one too. It took forever, forever to load on tape. I restarted the loading process many many times, thinking it wasn't working, until one day I let it run by accident... :double
Oh, it's new found for me i got it with a C128D on floppy that i bought from a local guy.
It brings back memories from wargame construction set, which i also have now BTW, boxed.
Both are fun i think.
But i think of Beach Head when i see arcade, which is why i looked for it in CoinOps.
Awesome game, it would have fitted great in an arcade IMO.
Edit: i sometimes leave them running too, nice surprise when they come on isn't it
It brings back memories from wargame construction set, which i also have now BTW, boxed.
Both are fun i think.
But i think of Beach Head when i see arcade, which is why i looked for it in CoinOps.
Awesome game, it would have fitted great in an arcade IMO.
Edit: i sometimes leave them running too, nice surprise when they come on isn't it
Even the coinops screensaver is kind of fun. Sit down with a few friends, start playing and get a few beers. After having tried few games and having had few beers, get back to game selection menu and let go of the controllers.
Wait a couple minutes for the video screensaver to start and you have instant fun with name the game and platform contest that never seems to run out of games, new short video clip every few seconds.
Wait a couple minutes for the video screensaver to start and you have instant fun with name the game and platform contest that never seems to run out of games, new short video clip every few seconds.
Guys,where from I can download it? I have tried underground gamers torrent but as never used torrents I will not be able to meet their requirements
, was banned after 20G as my ratio is too low. No surprise as got only this torrent active ... I got it unbanned but can not see a way to have better ratio in less than a year . Please help if you know other source.
, was banned after 20G as my ratio is too low. No surprise as got only this torrent active ... I got it unbanned but can not see a way to have better ratio in less than a year . Please help if you know other source.Usenet is your friend 
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