Both. I like to put new hardware through it's paces for a couple of weeks first then decide if it's for the shelf or not.
THE A1200 - Press release
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Both. I like to put new hardware through it's paces for a couple of weeks first then decide if it's for the shelf or not.
Looks like an A1200
Hopefully feels like an A1200
faster than a stock A1200 with various options / fastram ?
semi confirmed via various feeds ( nice if true ) runs licenced workbench
1 usb-c for power , 1 HDMI output ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Nice!!
yes I understand probably a cheap android cortex board inside but if it works it works and even the budget boards have the power to run MUCH more than an Amiga so plenty of horses to run a stint of Elite Frontier
No need to worry about caps, fdd drive faults , adding expensive accelerators / fast ram , hdd or CF setup , HDMI addon for modern displays, built in USB support so no need for that,,
yes its not a real A1200 perse , I don't care,,, it will work , get updates and completety Novice or a new user friendly. plug n Go.
I'm too old now to be fighting with older hardware, the A1200 I have needs recapping and the expansion port or the 030 board I have requires servicing, only works if i tilt the 030 board slightly ( tried the pull it out a few mm ), then I have to find a display that also does not needing recapping that also accepts scart rgb input. etc etc etc etc
if it works to a standard Like the C64 maxi I have / spectrum / etc does then i might just retire my original hardware for ease of use and reliability. so many quality of life improvements that personally i like.
If we're not willing to put the effort in, how can we expect the young ones to put the effort in Sardine?
These "friendships" we have with these older machines require work, and I often find that work rewarding in itself. Sometimes they even draw blood! And just when I think that's a big annoyance, I remember people like @Kulamario123 who builds all that amazing hardware for so many people with incredible skill and craftsmanship. Or @AmigaDigital, @RetroFletch, etc. who again have far superior skill and abilities to mine and created pieces that make my Amiga systems better. But hey, I understand where you're coming from @Sardine. Eventually one get to a point where you have no time for the dramas. I also didn't want to buy all these different retro systems, hence why I looked to address that. But when it comes to Amiga, I like to roll pure and original. It's the one machine that I will not compromise on.
@Sardine
Yes indeed. Over on amigang.com they confirm that it will come with some form of workbench
Source: https://amigang.com/the-a1200/
Yes indeed. Over on amigang.com they confirm that it will come with some form of workbench
Source: https://amigang.com/the-a1200/
I want to buy one to replace my main Amiga for events.
Last two times I had problems on the events with my A1200's crashing and not booting while those Amiga 1200's were tested many hours before the events. The Amiga 1200's are recapped and using CA -PSU, GVP 1230 II and ACA1234.
I just want to play games without issues on the events.
Last two times I had problems on the events with my A1200's crashing and not booting while those Amiga 1200's were tested many hours before the events. The Amiga 1200's are recapped and using CA -PSU, GVP 1230 II and ACA1234.
I just want to play games without issues on the events.
If we're not willing to put the effort in, how can we expect the young ones to put the effort in Sardine?
I tried that with the kiddies ( now 15 and 11 ) ..... your competing with cod / Roblox / YouTube shorts etc, it has to be easy not make them work for it. They loose interest so quickly.
I personally hope they do them all, dragon 32 . BBC B etc. yes a mister can do them all but that's not what I personally would like. the new Atari built intellivision with wireless pads that supports inlays looks cool but a tad pricey... I want that also
as my intellivision is RF only with about 5 carts,I would like to use a close as possible reproduction that feels like the "real" thing without all the drama and fuss. ( try loading a 40 yr old BBC disk , all mine dont read anymore and deteriorating , how long until all my Amiga disks or even CD's fail , my lad lost 2 last month to bit rot
We need to make these kids work for it a bit! They have it too easy. This will not serve them well later on in life. They'll give up too damn easy. Don't get me started on variable game difficulty. Imagine they'd have to install an OS from scratch? Oh the humanity!
At Amiga 40 it was still in Alpha, so they haven't even done a Beta, much less a public Beta, so I think we can exclude that@Sardine
I suspect this new THE A1200 might come with the recently mentioned AmigaOS 3.3.
Interesting times ahead it seems ...
Thanks for the longer explanation! I have clearer understanding now.
I also more clearly understand why I don't like 'The A1200'. It can be summed up as one word 'upgrade'.
You see, 'upgrading' was normally such a bittersweet experience. You upgrade your hardware, only just to see something newer and better coming out pretty soon.
For retro systems it stopped being bitter - something newer isn't coming out soon, most likely never. I upgraded my XU800 from 600Mhz CPU to 2x 1Ghz. Blade 1000 got XVR-1000 framebuffer ('RTG' in Sun world) upgrade.
C64 Ultimate, Spectrum Next, Mega65 or Commander X16 sound like interesting upgrades (over historic 8-bit baseline) not only in the area of modern connectors or modern reliability, but in other areas as well.
The A1200 (and other minis and maxis) doesn't seem to be an upgrade. It seems to be the CR version, or (CR)^2.
Now, I admit it is really hard to upgrade original A1200. It was a great system and it is very hard to do anything here reasonably with limited time/resources. A3000 or A4000 is upgrade over A1200 hence why these machines now cost so much. But we cannot expect new systems with such level of expandability.
Apollo A6000 does come close to be such an upgrade though...almost.
So... I want an upgrade!
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Well, these machines you listed have something in common, but I won't talk about it.
Here, I beg to differ. Commodore Amiga 1200 has become a beloved machine because it is a fantastic baseline. Clean motherboards, 2meg Chip, 020, AGA of course, IDE, the wedge we love. These are all significant upgrades on the most popular 500. You can do so much with an Amiga 1200. You can just throw in a CF card and some Fast RAM and disco - no issues. You can flickerfix with a DVI/VGA out, 030, and be leaving bunch of Amiga setups in the dust and not spend that much. You can put it in a CheckMate1500 with a TF1260 and rock Amiga 3000 looks, while having AGA and a way lower cost and bunch of power. OK, no zorro slots, but slot limitations have been overcome by incredibly dedicated individuals coming up with solutions.
I'm working on finalizing a 2000 Tower setup, and...OK, obviously I put a Toaster in there and Indivision overcame the lack of 2nd video slot for flickerfixer, an RTG card too, an SBC card, etc. But are these things critical to an Amiga experience? I think you can easily reason yourself away from Toaster, RTG and SBC in an Amiga. So, we're back to the 1200 being a heck of a system. You can pack a lot in a 1200 simply, cleanly, reliably.
And if you want to explore the limits of what is possible in a 1200, check out this Amiga Artist. My head spins each time I look at this thread.
So i've been busy beavering away for the last 4 months gathering parts for my A1200 Desktop and now i've decided to share what i've been doing and what I plan to do in time.
To start with I wanted to try and hack a slimline slot loading DVD drive into my A1200 and mount a 2.5" HDD underneath it, Its taken a fair bit of effort to accomplish but i've finally managed, and today I was happily pushing a CD into the back of my A1200 and it went in and was detected fine... I ejected... it came out.. and didn't scratch! Mission accomplished!
Video of the drive in action:-...
To start with I wanted to try and hack a slimline slot loading DVD drive into my A1200 and mount a 2.5" HDD underneath it, Its taken a fair bit of effort to accomplish but i've finally managed, and today I was happily pushing a CD into the back of my A1200 and it went in and was detected fine... I ejected... it came out.. and didn't scratch! Mission accomplished!
Video of the drive in action:-...
What I meant is release 'upgraded A1200' as a product now in 2025. Seems to me we are getting cost-reduced one (sure with modern ports etc).Well, these machines you listed have something in common, but I won't talk about it.
Here, I beg to differ. Commodore Amiga 1200 has become a beloved machine because it is a fantastic baseline.
Let's hope the plastics don't yellow over time ... or should that too be a part of the retro Amiga experience? 
That's why I asked if there will be a black setLet's hope the plastics don't yellow over time ... or should that too be a part of the retro Amiga experience?
It's coming. 100%. You heard it from me first. December 2026.
At present only available in Amiga beige. There has been no other colours officially announced yet.
Speculation and crystal ball readings by other members here, not withstanding
Speculation and crystal ball readings by other members here, not withstanding
Indeed, couldnt agree more
If people wanna the a1200 feel free, we all have different views and opinions, but if it is an affordable way for people to inject amiga in life why not
Been thinking about this. You know...chances of a black A1200.At present only available in Amiga beige. There has been no other colours officially announced yet.
Speculation and crystal ball readings by other members here, not withstanding
Commodore C64 was never made in black as we know, but Retro Games Ltd made a black mini version. C64 has a much bigger retro nostalgia attachment and recognition, so RGL went with the custom color choice. Originally they did C64mini in original color, and now they offer it in black plus the full working keyboard model C64 in the original color as well as Vic20. So there is differentiation in size between the regular C64 and black C64 mini, in essence to almost invite purchase at least two choices by same customer thanks to color and size differentiation.
A500mini never got the black treatment. The original probably didn't sell enough to justify the required scale of 2nd run production in black. Instead of doing a A500 full version they instead did it with the A1200 plastics as a point of differentiation in hoping to get the A500mini purchasers to open their wallets again. Somewhat follows the C64 range roll-out. Perhaps after the A1200 full size launches, they will do a A500mini black edition to get users to open wallets again? Who knows?
I'm thinking the A1200 will sell way less than the A500mini due to price point. Overall their complete Axxxx product line will certainly sell way less than the C64 range for various reasons of original machine popularity, nostalgia and cost. If I was betting, I'd estimate they sold 5 full size C64s for every A1200 they will sell. Retailers would bet on C64 in-store sales (at EB Games for example would stock it) but not the more obsure A1200 model as so few will know what this is today. This sales forecast and reality doesn't help the potential of a Black Edition. I actually think a C64 full size black edition is more likely.
Additionally, we live in a more expensive shipping/duties/brokerage/tax/tariff world. This will surely ding sales of the A1200 today. So, I don't know if economics of this software Amiga emulation machine will justify a black version. I'm starting to doubt it. RGL aren't sure either, and will judge based on response and orders of the A1200 to see if it makes sense.
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That had be Coolest Boxed I have seen so Far..............Well Done Retro Games and yes, you can pre order today for 2026 June when come out
So who Lucky bugger gonna get it
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