Know what you mean, €300 euros is a lot to make your Amiga run 20 year old software at lightening speeds. I can do that already for a fraction of the price through my rpi.
Vampire v500+ now available to preorder
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Know what you mean, €300 euros is a lot to make your Amiga run 20 year old software at lightening speeds. I can do that already for a fraction of the price through my rpi.
Why not when it's a fixed price brand new item? it's not like used price valuations are being discussed, much like ebay bin links are allowed but auctions are not.
I hadnt suggested anyone had broken any rules, however as the thread had gone from vampire availiability to price suitability, i was just reminding people to air with caution
It does not (yet) implement ECS/AGA so the HDMI can currently only be used as an RTG output. So it is only WB which can be shown through HDMI and you have to use the RGB port or an Indivision ECS for games.
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You only need two monitors if you wish to use the HDMI output. You can still use the Vampire as a plain accelerator in ECS modes, although it would be silly not to use the RTG in WB.
Since the Vampire does not implement the ECS/AGA chipset, games will not show on the HDMI output so you'd need to either have two monitors or have one with two inputs. Eventually they plan to implement AGA in the Vampire (named SAGA) but this is still a WIP.
My Dell 2001FP can show the Amiga RGB on the VGA input and also has a DVI input which I can use with the Vampire HDMI connector.
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I'm surprised they are taking orders for the A500 model while the A600 model remains a partially completed product. Surely it would have been wiser to focus all their efforts on the current card and get everything working before releasing another card. That way at least they're not juggling two plates and spreading resources even thinner.
Considering how close Kipper was to throwing in the towel recently and how poor their communcation is with the public, I think the news of yet another card would have me worried if I actually owned one of their cards. If they were overworked and ignoring people before, goodness knows how they will be with two cards on sale.
Considering how close Kipper was to throwing in the towel recently and how poor their communcation is with the public, I think the news of yet another card would have me worried if I actually owned one of their cards. If they were overworked and ignoring people before, goodness knows how they will be with two cards on sale.
Small little businessman that I am, fascinated by the whole history and progress of this project. From Majsta's struggles with it, to Kippers frustration and finally bringing another level of professionalism to the whole project.
There seems to be some real money to be made considering the sample size of people who are interested.
I also like Individual Computers products with quality and support.
Interesting times for a supposed relic of a computer.
There seems to be some real money to be made considering the sample size of people who are interested.
I also like Individual Computers products with quality and support.
Interesting times for a supposed relic of a computer.
Thanks Demolition.
If I remember correctly I found this out whilst listening to a review. I don't believe it has ever been clearly stated on the offical sites.
This bit is pretty misleading in my view,
True, they intended for it to do that, but it does not work yet.. Time will tell if and when this feature shows up.
So instead of just having one card missing an important feature they will have two. They should have waited until they had the A600 version running right, honoured the people who have payed good money for a half finished product.
When a game reaches alpha the programmers don't start writing another game, they stick with the one they're working on until it's finished.
When a game reaches alpha the programmers don't start writing another game, they stick with the one they're working on until it's finished.
The thing is that the people making the HW are not the same people who are doing the FPGA design or driver programming, thus it all runs in parallel. The fact that they are doing another board is hardly delaying the development of new features by much. If they should not release new boards until all features are done, the HW guys would just have to sit on their hands for a long time and that doesn't make much sense to me..
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If people are aware of the issues and buy it, then it's not really they're fault they do state the core's are in beta. If people buy something like this and are not aware of the issues then all I can say is they should try and do more research. The info is out there.
Also if there are that many people clamouring for an unfinished product does kind of point to the fact even as it is...... Its Awesome!
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Also if there are that many people clamouring for an unfinished product does kind of point to the fact even as it is...... Its Awesome!
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as far i know - there are two teams working on this project:
Majsta and Keeper are working on hardware, and apollo team writes all necessary drivers/code.. So, Majsta has his job done (none of the boards are soldered by hand at the moment) and he can move toward creating his next projects. All boards will receive updates as soon as they will available...
The boards itself are not bad, they are realy great...except the price... they are just too expensive here in europe (we need to add custom fees too).. It started so beautiful, everyone wanted to have them. Then Majsta decided to make more powerfull version - it has increased the price dramatically.. Actually there is no need to have so much power since there are no soft for it.. it's like to buy a Boeing to go shopping...
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When you put it like that I'm inclined to agree with you, I had forgotten about the development being split in to two camps. I guess my concern comes from the fact the whole project almost stopped a few months ago and if god forbid something happened again. What would happen to all those Vampire owners with thier partially working cards, would they still get support or be left to fend for themselves. Hopefully the software side would continue to trundle on. But as you said, you get what it says on the tin and you accept the risk, regardless of how pricey that might be.
@DJcook
I think you will always have a group wanting to push the envelope, even if its simply running 30 year old software really fast. Its the same dilemma as owning an OS4 system, you have a PPC system with a tiny little pond of dedicated software and the rest is for classic 68k. Leaving you running old software on a machine vastly over powered for the task. I have a Micro Ua1 and I use it on and off, last year when I wanted to edit some photos I asked on EAB about software and was told to use Personal Paint. There was only the 68k version availible at that point and I found myself thinking "What is the point of having an OS4 system if every time I need to do a task I'm using the same software as my A3000? I ended up going back to my classic system.
Later I built a RPi3 in to an Amiga 600, sufficed to say having Linux and UAE at the touch of a button is extremely handy. I had the opportunity to pit my 600Pi against a Black edition vampire last month, playing aDoom the Vampire was only a tiny fraction smoother. Take away from that what you will, the debate over emulation vs FPGA is a turbulent one. For myself I was gratified to find a cheaper means still existed for user seeking to experience breakneck speeds in a classic wb environment.
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I think that the current price for the current product is still very good value for money even if they never release another update for it. People pay more than that just for an 060 card, and that doesn't include any RTG card which is also quite expensive to get.. Yes, it is a lot of money compared to what we're used to pay for electronics nowadays, but the price on a hobby-project like this cannot be compared to the mass-produced stuff you find in the shops.
