Worst Amiga?

[Jumping Anaconda]

7, The power brick was underpowered and caused instability. I never considered my Amiga 1200 a reliable or stable machine when I used the original power pack.

8, It was bound to delivering software on floppy media when ide CD-ROMs should have been easy to add via a complete built in IDE interface. They could have even have made space in the case to attach a CD-ROM if they needed to. If this machine had come with a CD-Rom drive as standard, even with all the other hardware limitations it probably would had jumped the rest of the competition. The lack of CD-ROM drive on the A1200 is the fundamental reason that CD on the Amiga never really established itself as a viable medium in its own right, rather than a gimmick used to distribute existing floppy versions of software.

9, The machine upon release has many different versions and revisions, and varying bugs, such as the timing issue.

10, The games in the Desktop Dynamite pack were shockingly bad, almost as bad as Screen Gems. In hindsight it also seems questionable to include anything but the latest versions of the productivity software in the package when you are trying to sell the benefits of the new machine, so for me Wordsworth 2 was a slight bit of a missed opportunity. You did not see PC manufacturers bundling Word 1.0 when Word 2.0 was out because they wanted to sell upgrades.

 

[orb85750]

A1000 is the least capable. From that perspective it's the "worst" (and I sold mine since it got no use). But at the time it was released, it was easily the greatest personal computer in existence.

 

[Templar]

A1000 was the first Amiga that opened new horizons in the Amiga industry. How's that can be the "worst" Amiga ever then?

 

[AndyLandy]

A1000 was the first Amiga that opened new horizons in the Amiga industry. How's that can be the "worst" Amiga ever then?

It's the oldest. That makes it the most groundbreaking (It was a whole new platform) but of course it's the least powerful. Anything released subsequent to it would have to be better in some way, otherwise why release it at all?

 

[Templar]

But you cannot define the worst Amiga like that I pressume.

When A1000 launched, was far ahead of its time for sure, but now it's old. So what to vote? The best or the worst?

I believe the poll is to vote for the worst Amiga, in means that what it served to the customer in the time it appeared on the shelves. So it means, that an A1000 cannot be the worst Amiga ever. That's my assumption.

 

[AndyLandy]

But you cannot define the worst Amiga like that I pressume.

When A1000 launched, was far ahead of its time for sure, but now it's old. So what to vote? The best or the worst?

I believe the poll is to vote for the worst Amiga, in means that what it served to the customer in the time it appeared on the shelves. So it means, that an A1000 cannot be the worst Amiga ever. That's my assumption.

It's open to interpretation! And it's a very controversial question. I've been very impressed with everyone's answers so far. I don't mind which one people pick, I'm just interested in their justifications for it, those make for very interesting reading.

 

[Templar]

Right, the answers indeed are really interesting.

 

[Skellionz]

I feel slighted by this poll, my first amiga was a 500+ and i loved it

:crying::crying:

the fact that nobody has chosen a 1200 says something, also have to look at the fact it's probably the most used system here. It's a shame that It's potential has only been realised many years after It's release, It could have all been so different for commodore

 

[cosmicfrog]

Coorrrrree CD on the A1200 when it was released that been nice, simm sockets on the motherboard, spare socket where the FPU is for a better CPU,

but most of all the use of IDE over SCSI is the thing I hate about the A1200 the most, sure there were no 2.5" scsi drives at the time of its lurch but most of us figgerd out how to but 3.5" HDDS in the case anyway.


I still can`t vote as there is no worst amiga, such a thing could`t exists in the consumer place

 

[kaos]

i think a500+ was the worst amiga made (but i love it).
I was 10 when my parents gave it to me (they paid 750'000 lire for it, near 390 €: at that times it was a lot of money!) and only few months later commodore come out with 600s and 1200s: it was very sad.

 

[Bootay]

The most handicapped Amiga still is the CDTV: no good ORIGINAL titles for the original (without extras) appliance. Not it is not awesome on its own, it is just too expensive to have a fully upgraded unit that (then) can have an use.

Yep. Pretty much every original CDTV title is crap. And the ones that are decent are ones that are just games ported straight from floppy without anything added....like Turrican and Wrath of the Demon. The only benefit for Wrath of the Demon is no more playing disk jockey with all those floppies (I think the floppy version had 5 disks and they were NDOS so you couldn't install it. Obviously WHDLoad has taken care of that since then)

Even if the CDTV had a bunch of great games, that wireless IR controller was crap.

 

[quarkx]

Interesting Aside, I noticed 2 people voted for the A3000 Tower. I would wonder if these people actually had or seen an A3000T. Since I have had both an A3000 desktop, and Tower, I would say the tower is the far Superior unit. I think CBM hit a home run with the tower (other than the price), taking a great look at what was "wrong" with the A3000, and redesigning it to fit in a stock CBM PC case. No Daughter board, the whole (Massive) motherboard is one piece and the layout is nice.
The case is almost "over" compensating for the lack of room in a desktop A3000. Anyone running a Video Toaster and Flyer unit would have no problems mounting 8 hard drives in this beast.
If the A2000 is built like a tank, the A3000tower is built like a battleship! With 2 side panels to take off to get inside, and a chassis you could park a truck on, on can't see any "modern" pc case with that much strength and steel, not even the Lian Li cases (although close)canmatch. The big pain is the middle hard drive rack to remove and insert. It is tight. But the big drawback is the shear weight of the beast, Shipping now would be absolutely insane. CBM should have put wheels or casters on the bottom.
The BITE magazine artical I have on the A3000 names it (the '030) a "supercomputer" on a chip. The A3000tower would solidify that opinion at the time.

 

[desiv]

My browser isn't working..
It almost looks like some people voted for that A1000...

Funny that browser glitch.....

desiv

 

[Buzzfuzz]

I voted A600.
The accelerator cards where at insane prices back in the days and it wasn't bettter than the A500+.
I'm suprised by the amount of comment and votes on the A500, it's a far better Amiga than the 600.
Combine a 500+ with a 530 and this is a great WHDLoad setup.

4000T and 3000T are the best out there.
3000T only lacks AGA, but it's a beast with a Cyberstorm card.

 

[mjnurney]

the browser on my Mac shows the same glitch ...2 votes for the lovely A1000

very odd..

 

[commodorejohn]

You make a very good point about the A4000. The only thing is has over the A3000 is AGA. I really do love the A3000, it's a beautiful machine.

I kind of have to agree. Nothing against AGA per se, but the 4000 is just not much bang for the buck (especially nowadays - the prices those things can command are just ridiculous.) The 3000 has all the really important features plus a lower profile and better build quality...I wouldn't trade it.

 

[AndyLandy]

You make a very good point about the A4000. The only thing is has over the A3000 is AGA. I really do love the A3000, it's a beautiful machine.

I kind of have to agree. Nothing against AGA per se, but the 4000 is just not much bang for the buck (especially nowadays - the prices those things can command are just ridiculous.) The 3000 has all the really important features plus a lower profile and better build quality...I wouldn't trade it.

Hmm, curious. The A3000 is a lot less common over here than it is on your side of the pond. As such they tend to command prices that aren't too dissimilar to the A4000.

 

[commodorejohn]

Huh, interesting. I got my whole setup for about $REDACTED, less than 3/4 of what I've seen stock 4000s go for. Crazy.

But I suppose with the Amiga being generally more popular in Europe than the US, it makes sense that there'd be more of the late-model AGA machines hanging around there. I've noticed the same with 1200s; significantly more common in the UK than the US.

 

[Geraldine]

But is that not dependant on the model you are talking about John? I always thought the earlier models like the A1000 were more common in the States. Might be wrong though

 

[commodorejohn]

It seems (from my limited observations) that the most common models in the US are the OCS machines. 500s are common as dirt, 2000s aren't hard to find, and 1000s turn up fairly often as well (though I've never found one personally, alas.) The 3000 is the most common I've seen after that, with the other ECS machines and the AGA machines trailing behind it (then again, this may just be because most AGA machines have already been snapped up.)