1200ng or Miss1200?

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Hey @YouKnowWho I wouldn't mind giving that whack-a-floppy game a go! :D
Initially I thought that it was silly, but I admit...after seeing it in use and hearing him explain how much effort he went into to make it really playable...well...I'm next to play it after you @Watson. :-)

You know...I took a Sony floppy drive, took the electronics all off and chopped a corner out of it to make it fit in my Amiga 1200 w/MISTress1200 DE-10 setup. Needed to chop the corner off the drive to fit around the MISTress1200 connectors. Anyway, after all the mods I wrapped a bunch of electrical tape round the remainder for safety and put it inside. Why you ask?

Just so I could insert and eject a floppy disk and hear the sound of both in this FPGA setup. I believe I clearly have some Canadian version of Rob's floppy illness, not yet as advance perhaps. No treatment, no cure - obviously.

Oh, and there is a learning here in my story...I don't believe a floppy drive will fit in the 1200 with a MISTress1200. They need to make some changes to the board and those connectors to allow a floppy to connect cleanly. I gave them this feedback for potential future revisions.
 
@YouKnowWho

Plenty of room inside the case with the A1200NG ... No need to butcher floppy drives or mess about with cables that end up strewn all over the place, maknig it look like spaghetti junction :)

Just screw the drive in place, add the cables (all connectors are located in a line along the top edge of the board for ease of access) and then close up the case.

As the meerkat once said ...

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@YouKnowWho

Plenty of room inside the case with the A1200NG ...
Probably because A1200NG has no heart (68K CPU) or soul (Custom Amiga Chipset).
The room inside A1200NG is just a physical reminder of its inability to ever fill that void with any heart or soul. :-)
 
I would think all is fun and games with the A1200NG until there's an issue and the guys who I think is basically now infamous AmigaKit has to support it?
 
I think there's enough of a userbase already (and still growing by all accounts) to keep support going for quite a long time yet. Even if AmigaKit goes belly up, there's probably others who would take a vested interest.

One thing I haven't tried yet is to see if PiMiga from Dr Chris will run on the board ... might be fun!
 
Comical reply ... Clearly you know best :ROFLMAO:
I go for the laughs @miggymad because we need to laugh. And the only thing funnier than running an Amiga software emulation on an ARM CPU in a reproduction case that has AMIGA removed from it for trademark reasons is the price of a real Amiga 1200 Custom Chipset set today. ...at least to me. :-)
 
@YouKnowWho

Nothing funnier than a fanboy who decries one machine for the sake of his own emulator 😊

Neither machine is a genuine Amiga so do please stop saying yours is but in an FPGA package... We all know different.

And on that note, are we done now?
 
I'd say that the A600gs and A1200ng don't feel like Amigas to me as they focus on a more "packaged" approach than other, to me, Amiga-esque approaches.

I'm then thinking of the launcher approach that they've gone for.

The machines can probably be set to boot to a WB, or from floppy? I don't know, haven't paid too close attention to them to be honest.

Having said that, I have no problem understanding that this is exactly an appealing proposition to some.

It's a professionally packaged product in the right form factor that gives you real quality of life convenience if you just want to spend some time in a tracker, paint package or kick some Sensible soccer.

But then to me who loves the tinkering side of it, if I want that kind of deal I go for the Mister based solutions.

So after all, this means that it's good that prospective amiga punters have options. More now than in a very long time.

Not everything is for everyone. Back in the 90s infighting between Amiga fanbois was still a thing. Did you buy the Apollo accelerator?? Nimwit, it's not the most powerful, go Phase 5! Did you buy a Blizzard, a fool and his money... What?? You've tampered with the sacred machines, you've put the evil Apple CPUs in your machines, you're fracturing the scene!!

More hardware mostly means more users I hope, not only hoarders. And more hardware and users hopefully means more software and lively community.

Now, back to the AmigaKit products, I worry that if old Amigans come back and have a shipping problem or a "Monday machine" that they'll quickly sour on the Amiga if they give their usual level of service to a returning user on what's probable a at least 500 EUR purchase if they need case and keyboard too new. I get that most sensible adults would rather buy something 2026 new with quality of life additions (hdmi, usb hid, SD, etc) when getting back.

Myself, I took the same route as many here. Bought what I had back in the 90s, tinkered and fickled until I had it working with a LCD.

When the new came, I embraced it, because I had been sweating over the Indivision profiles, finding the right old keyboard and mouse for the adapter that just wouldn't work just right. And then the caps and related issues that gives the spurious Guru Meditations that you're not quite sure if is because you've got a aging motherboard or if you've got an over ambitious WB install with just one too many patches...
 
It doesnt really matter if is AMIGA or A600GS or A1200NG or any Emulator and just ENJOY what you Enjoy.

It all about fun on what you do weather playing games or doing Paint or Programming or CAD or whatever make you happy :)

Simple as that!
 
Nothing funnier than a fanboy who decries one machine for the sake of his own emulator 😊

Neither machine is a genuine Amiga so do please stop saying yours is but in an FPGA package... We all know different.

And on that note, are we done now?
@miggymad - I have always been very clear and logical with what I have discussed and recommended. I follow this:

Real Amiga 68K CPU + Custom Chip set > FPGA > Software Emulation

A600GS/A1200NG/TheA1200 is software emulation and bottom of the food chain stuff.

Software emulation always has been bottom of the food chain as we all know. Oh...and also, usually FREE! :-)
 
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