Exactly why I always go the full 060 route……
68060 vs 68LC060 on a TF1260...for example
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So:
LC060: way lower cost, overclocks more readily on TF1260, which is most popular 060 accelerator for 1200.
Full 060: FPU to support full software library, productivity, rendering, and overclocks on all cards, a must for demos this side of year 2000.
Conan..."In the year two thousand...in the year two thousand...you'll need a full 060 to run demos on the Amiga"
LC060: way lower cost, overclocks more readily on TF1260, which is most popular 060 accelerator for 1200.
Full 060: FPU to support full software library, productivity, rendering, and overclocks on all cards, a must for demos this side of year 2000.
Conan..."In the year two thousand...in the year two thousand...you'll need a full 060 to run demos on the Amiga"
Yep, you’ve summed that up wellSo:
LC060: way lower cost, overclocks more readily on TF1260, which is most popular 060 accelerator for 1200.
Full 060: FPU to support full software library, productivity, rendering, and overclocks on all cards, a must for demos this side of year 2000.
Conan..."In the year two thousand...in the year two thousand...you'll need a full 060 to run demos on the Amiga"
The overclocking ability of a CPU has to do with the manufacturing process but also varies from batch to batch (meaning luck is also a factor)
The latest 060 revision, aka rev6, as well as those with later production dates (made by Freescale/NXP) are usually the ones known to reach 100+ Mhz
The latest 060 revision, aka rev6, as well as those with later production dates (made by Freescale/NXP) are usually the ones known to reach 100+ Mhz
I was thinking more THIS Conan...looking into the future...
I prefer to overclock 060 if possible, it makes Workbench faster - not just rendering or fractal generators. I noticed a difference in speed when opening drawers between 50 and 100Mhz for example. Makes Workbench much more enjoyable to work with and highly recommeded.
Yep. You should try a PiStorm. Then overclock. It’s like the speed of a modern Windows PC
I think that is my "sickness". this is my third rodeo with Amiga. Get one, use it, pimp it, plug in anything that has a plug on it, get it working, break something, get in a huff, come back and fix it, add more stuuf, trawl ebay, aminet, youtube, what can i do next, get bored, sell everything at a massive losss, repeat.
Little detail question. It seems that there is no pin difference between any of the 060s, right? So this means that the difference was just a production quality outcome? If an element of MMU or FPU didn't work, they'd disable it and sell it as such to improve yield and minimize waste?
As a side-bar, this brought me to 68030s, and I compared a 68EC030 and 68030RC and there were pin-out differences, which were also present between 68030RP and 68030RC. Seems like RC has 3 more pins. I guess I have something to look up later.
As a side-bar, this brought me to 68030s, and I compared a 68EC030 and 68030RC and there were pin-out differences, which were also present between 68030RP and 68030RC. Seems like RC has 3 more pins. I guess I have something to look up later.
The revision 4 contains the same bug fixes (from rev 1 & 2) as the rev 6 with later releases both using the same node size of 0.42 microns giving them both a lower heat profile and ability to be stable when over clocked. They differ in power consumption with the rev 6 using 30-40% less (1.6 W vs 2.5), although this may be identical with the last versions, as information from the web is lacking. Both being on the same node size with the rev 4 not having an FPU, should mean less wattage is required. Bator sells 100 MHz rev 4 chips that need the same cooling as the rev 6.
However, both can be found in some samples to be stable at up to 100 MHz, with the rev 1 being unstable past 60-66 MHz.
The need of an FPU (or even an MMU) is in the domain of the individual user, as is using a PiStorm for its various qualities.
However, both can be found in some samples to be stable at up to 100 MHz, with the rev 1 being unstable past 60-66 MHz.
The need of an FPU (or even an MMU) is in the domain of the individual user, as is using a PiStorm for its various qualities.
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