sarek2k
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test version been playing around with amibay logo what you reckon?
(sorry if link don't work i'm hopeless at linking
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AmiDev: What AMIBAY do you want?
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test version been playing around with amibay logo what you reckon?
(sorry if link don't work i'm hopeless at linking
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Amibay running slowly?
Amibay running slowly?
I've noticed that the AmiBay server seems to be a bit erratic at the moment. Some pages are taking nearly a minute to load, whereas other pages are much faster, loading in a few seconds.
Is the database server getting overloaded at all?
The worst I've found was when accessing the PM pages. Those took a very long time to load.
Amibay running slowly?
I've noticed that the AmiBay server seems to be a bit erratic at the moment. Some pages are taking nearly a minute to load, whereas other pages are much faster, loading in a few seconds.
Is the database server getting overloaded at all?
The worst I've found was when accessing the PM pages. Those took a very long time to load.
Some ideas
Some ideas
Here are a couple of ideas I've had for Amibay.
A frontpage portal. Nothing complicated, just something to show the latest 10 items and wanted ads placed on the site. Plus announcements regarding Amibay.
Friends of AmiBay. As has been mentioned in another thread I started. Having a links/friends page is a really useful addition to any site, but if you can also get the site's linked within that page to link to AmiBay too then that is even better as it will increase the site's Google Ranking. So reciprocal links.
It is quite hard to setup a reciprocal links system, but you could just say that site's will be added into the "Friends of AmiBay" page once their site has the AmiBay banner placed.
Some ideas
Here are a couple of ideas I've had for Amibay.
A frontpage portal. Nothing complicated, just something to show the latest 10 items and wanted ads placed on the site. Plus announcements regarding Amibay.
Friends of AmiBay. As has been mentioned in another thread I started. Having a links/friends page is a really useful addition to any site, but if you can also get the site's linked within that page to link to AmiBay too then that is even better as it will increase the site's Google Ranking. So reciprocal links.
It is quite hard to setup a reciprocal links system, but you could just say that site's will be added into the "Friends of AmiBay" page once their site has the AmiBay banner placed.
@Harrison
hmmm portal eh?
personaly i like portals they give a much need emphasis to the site your in...
I have a couple of ideas that would give a portal-esque without changing the layout. we shall see...
yes... the pages are erratic. heres why
Streamline (the host) is doing maintenance on the DNS ROUTING server this means any calls that use the msqlxx.streamline.net database are being slowed down by the aforementioned server.
I have a support ticket that tells me it will be sorted in the next 12 hours. But as i have said before I will will re-route to the direct IP of the database server later this evening.
this should alleviate all the slow-patchy service at present.
I do want to say though, that stream line a generally fantastic! I have used them for a fair while now and this is the only problem since the upgrade and maintenance of their new security policy I have ever had.
However in a nut shell should that the direct IP routing not prove to solve the problems here and if that the consensus is to move to another server we can make that leap also... hence why I have kept "Amibay Alpha" as small and as modular as possible.
@Sarek
My friend, i am liking what i am seeing
i like a lot
hmmm portal eh?
personaly i like portals they give a much need emphasis to the site your in...
I have a couple of ideas that would give a portal-esque without changing the layout. we shall see...
yes... the pages are erratic. heres why
Streamline (the host) is doing maintenance on the DNS ROUTING server this means any calls that use the msqlxx.streamline.net database are being slowed down by the aforementioned server.
I have a support ticket that tells me it will be sorted in the next 12 hours. But as i have said before I will will re-route to the direct IP of the database server later this evening.
this should alleviate all the slow-patchy service at present.
I do want to say though, that stream line a generally fantastic! I have used them for a fair while now and this is the only problem since the upgrade and maintenance of their new security policy I have ever had.
However in a nut shell should that the direct IP routing not prove to solve the problems here and if that the consensus is to move to another server we can make that leap also... hence why I have kept "Amibay Alpha" as small and as modular as possible.
@Sarek
My friend, i am liking what i am seeing
i like a lot I know what erratic servers can be like. I used to run classicamiga on a shared business server and sometimes the site access would be painfully slow, grind classicamiga to a halt. Switching to a dedicated server fixed that.
I hope the direct IP routing fixes the problem.
One other thing I've just thought of that I think is very important. Forcing members to enter and show their location under their avatar on their posts. As the site is mainly for the buying and selling of items I think it is very important that members can instantly see where the buyers and sellers are located because this will influence a buying decision for larger items or postage costs.
I hope the direct IP routing fixes the problem.
One other thing I've just thought of that I think is very important. Forcing members to enter and show their location under their avatar on their posts. As the site is mainly for the buying and selling of items I think it is very important that members can instantly see where the buyers and sellers are located because this will influence a buying decision for larger items or postage costs.
@Harrison: Welcome to AmiBay m8 and thanks for the comments so far. I'm unsure if a portal (esque) will see daylight anytime soon but the 'Friends Of' idea is one I'm always keen on.
@Merlin: I might be sticking my neck out here but Tecno seems to be a real crabby ass? If he can't even be bothered leaving a tiny link on his DEAD Amibench page, well.. [snip] The guy's done a superb job over the last 10 yrs but at the end of the day, we're all pissing in the same pot, aren't we??
@Merlin: I might be sticking my neck out here but Tecno seems to be a real crabby ass? If he can't even be bothered leaving a tiny link on his DEAD Amibench page, well.. [snip] The guy's done a superb job over the last 10 yrs but at the end of the day, we're all pissing in the same pot, aren't we??
And drinking from it too.
Ed: I don't like the idea of forcing people to enter their location in their user CP, but it is a good idea to do so anyway. Indicating where you are in your post is a good idea, for obvious reasons. And if people have a website, then again there is a place in the user CP that can be set that means a button will be displayed under their post. One click and there you go...
No need for spam linking, which Google can easily 'filter' out and downgrade you for... That is not the best way to grow a site, imo.
Ed: I don't like the idea of forcing people to enter their location in their user CP, but it is a good idea to do so anyway. Indicating where you are in your post is a good idea, for obvious reasons. And if people have a website, then again there is a place in the user CP that can be set that means a button will be displayed under their post. One click and there you go...
No need for spam linking, which Google can easily 'filter' out and downgrade you for... That is not the best way to grow a site, imo.
@ Dazza
Fair point, it did seem to be a clipped response that I maybe detected a hint of sour grapes in, but it is hard to tell the context from such a short answer.
His site had the longevity but TBH it wasn't all that from a style point of view, I may be blowing our own trumpet here but I think we have done a better job in a fortnight, mind you, Mark was on his own I suppose....
@ Sarek
Do I detect a pre-emptive strike on the logo competition here? LOL
@ Zetr0
Portals are OK with me as long as they aren't over the top, sometimes, less is more, if you know what I mean.
Fair point, it did seem to be a clipped response that I maybe detected a hint of sour grapes in, but it is hard to tell the context from such a short answer.
His site had the longevity but TBH it wasn't all that from a style point of view, I may be blowing our own trumpet here but I think we have done a better job in a fortnight, mind you, Mark was on his own I suppose....
@ Sarek
Do I detect a pre-emptive strike on the logo competition here? LOL
@ Zetr0
Portals are OK with me as long as they aren't over the top, sometimes, less is more, if you know what I mean.
sarek2k
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@Zetro regarding that last logo i chucked up would you like an xmasy version of it or do you want to stick with the one you have m8?
at the correct size of course
i was mearly posting the big version here for ppl to see the full quality, sorry i've not been taking much part but ho hum xmas on the way ppl to see things to do etc :roll:
at the correct size of course
i was mearly posting the big version here for ppl to see the full quality, sorry i've not been taking much part but ho hum xmas on the way ppl to see things to do etc :roll:
@sarek
please do m8y... i just spent a few mins trying to put myself in a chrismassy mood...
with all the bah-humbug... over commercialism its too damn much....
but a little bit of feastivity... that has nothing to do with the bah-humbug season
so yes please have some fun with the logo m8y... then post it to me and i will stick it up
please do m8y... i just spent a few mins trying to put myself in a chrismassy mood...
with all the bah-humbug... over commercialism its too damn much....
but a little bit of feastivity... that has nothing to do with the bah-humbug season
so yes please have some fun with the logo m8y... then post it to me and i will stick it up
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instant chat would be good or live voice chat option or even webcam for a laugh
its the future I guess we sould start using webcams all the time really.
there is a prolem when replying or new threading you can easily make mistake and have a reply on a new thread if you get me lol
instant chat would be good or live voice chat option or even webcam for a laugh
its the future I guess we sould start using webcams all the time really.
there is a prolem when replying or new threading you can easily make mistake and have a reply on a new thread if you get me lol
Hi here at Amibay,
first post from me, but be warned, I'll be back either in the christmas holiday or shortly after new year to put up some adds
I haven't been reading these devs sites carefully, so please forgive me if this has already been suggested and let down.
I see that many people aren't listing their goods for sale corretly, I think it's about half of the adverts a moderator has told the OP what to alter; state a selling price, don't link to ebay, etc, etc. Clearly people aren't reading the posting guidelines, it's simply a matter of clicking OK or ignoring it alltogether, post the advert and hope for the best, and alter text or whatever when being told to. I guess it's always better to ask for forgiveness that to ask if it's ok first, and then go ahead.
My suggestion is that adverts on Amibay should be approved by a moderator before they go online, kinda like amigaworld.net does it. I know it's not that userfriendly and might clash with the fact that amibay is forum based, but if you want to buy or sell, what difference does a day or two make? Anyway, by doing it this way you can filter out adds before they go online, and it eliminates the need for moderators worldwide as requested; I think it was meega that requested it.
Another suggestion is to make a templete or something similar. Is it possible to have a template on the first post (as the add will always be the first post in a new thread, besides in the AmiBay section) and then afterwards the posts in the thread is like it is now?
first post from me, but be warned, I'll be back either in the christmas holiday or shortly after new year to put up some adds
I haven't been reading these devs sites carefully, so please forgive me if this has already been suggested and let down.
I see that many people aren't listing their goods for sale corretly, I think it's about half of the adverts a moderator has told the OP what to alter; state a selling price, don't link to ebay, etc, etc. Clearly people aren't reading the posting guidelines, it's simply a matter of clicking OK or ignoring it alltogether, post the advert and hope for the best, and alter text or whatever when being told to. I guess it's always better to ask for forgiveness that to ask if it's ok first, and then go ahead.
My suggestion is that adverts on Amibay should be approved by a moderator before they go online, kinda like amigaworld.net does it. I know it's not that userfriendly and might clash with the fact that amibay is forum based, but if you want to buy or sell, what difference does a day or two make? Anyway, by doing it this way you can filter out adds before they go online, and it eliminates the need for moderators worldwide as requested; I think it was meega that requested it.
Another suggestion is to make a templete or something similar. Is it possible to have a template on the first post (as the add will always be the first post in a new thread, besides in the AmiBay section) and then afterwards the posts in the thread is like it is now?
Hello DoctorQ, good of you to join us in the Dev thread. It's the place to be. :wink:
It's never better to have to ask for forgiveness... post appropriately and you will not get moderated. It's simple. We expect maturity... Failing to read or understand the rules is your own look-out. If there is anything that you want clarification on, asking before posting is a good idea - it's the mature thing to do.
As for the template idea, we don't know what sort of things people want to post, and I feel that it is appropriate to allow people to express themselves in their own way. If a post is unclear, then a question or comment from a moderator can clear that up swiftly and most people will not need to be prompted more than once or twice. The site is still very new and some things are sure to change (including, possibly, the provision of some templates) so keep an eye on the Rules and other Informational threads. Again, as has been said before to others, thank you for your comments.
I look forward to seeing your first trading posts. Thanks for the warning. :wink:
And welcome to AmiBay.
It's never better to have to ask for forgiveness... post appropriately and you will not get moderated. It's simple. We expect maturity... Failing to read or understand the rules is your own look-out. If there is anything that you want clarification on, asking before posting is a good idea - it's the mature thing to do.
As for the template idea, we don't know what sort of things people want to post, and I feel that it is appropriate to allow people to express themselves in their own way. If a post is unclear, then a question or comment from a moderator can clear that up swiftly and most people will not need to be prompted more than once or twice. The site is still very new and some things are sure to change (including, possibly, the provision of some templates) so keep an eye on the Rules and other Informational threads. Again, as has been said before to others, thank you for your comments.
I look forward to seeing your first trading posts. Thanks for the warning. :wink:
And welcome to AmiBay.
meega said:
I see now that I might have been unclear in my wording. You and me know that it's just sticking with the guide, follow it, and no problems with the moderators then. The scenario I described is how I see some users trying to sell their goods; post first and deal with the problems afterwards; problems that could have been avoided if the user have just read through the posting guidelines. Instead the user just skips the guidelines, post the add and hope for the best. How many times haven't you already told the user in a thread to put in a price? And out of how many total adverts? Have you calculated the percentage??
Correct, you don't know what people are going to sell, but you already know beforehand what needs to be in the advert; price for the item for instance. The template should be based on what's needed to state, so it's up to the user to get his advert to fit into the template, not the other way around (the mods to fit the templete to the advert). A few other things could be post heading (for instance BlizzardPPC board), condition (poor, fair, good), shipping (Europe, US, own country, worldwide, local pickup only), which computer it's for (I'm still amazed that some people believe that a BPPC can be used in an A4000
), pictures, etc., etc.I think that it's time wasted, when a moderator like yourself have to point a user to the posting guidelines, and even have to do it twice. The posting guidelines are there for a reason but often overlooked. Anyway, my point is, if moderators had to aprove an advert, some adverts wouldn't even be posted, and you wouldn't need to lock threads (or shouldn't at least). An advert could just be rejected, and letting the poster know that the advert isn't following the guidelines. Fix it, resend it and it gets posted.
I know it's not a big issue now, but what if this page takes off, and get's 50 adverts a day (unrealistic maybe, but still). Do you moderators, and not meega in general, want to be watchdog all the time for things that can easily be avoided?
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By the way, about expressing yourself in an advert. Noone said that there shouldn't be a text box where you could write what you want ;-)
There is a difference between this site and other Amiga community sites with a For Sale forum - we have no other purpose. We are not trying to establish a chat site, this is not a news site, we expect our users to continue with their regular sites - including listing their deals on those sites. If they choose to list here as well, then they will have another place to offer their items to the community. I hope that AmiBay will be convenient to use and will become a preferred place to list, as the uncluttered interface will make it fast and easy.
Stating your price is in the Rules. If you *require* repetitive moderation of your posts, well - you won't last long. As for wasting my time, I have plenty of it... Also, pre-approving all listings would, in my opinion, be far more work for the moderators than just picking up on the faulty ones. People will still list poorly, even when presented with a template. They could, of course, browse some other threads to see how things have gone previously. Locked threads have their own uses. :wink:
Stating your price is in the Rules. If you *require* repetitive moderation of your posts, well - you won't last long. As for wasting my time, I have plenty of it... Also, pre-approving all listings would, in my opinion, be far more work for the moderators than just picking up on the faulty ones. People will still list poorly, even when presented with a template. They could, of course, browse some other threads to see how things have gone previously. Locked threads have their own uses. :wink:
Who have talked about a chat site?? Or a news site??
Sorry, but I already feel it is cluttered. It seems like half the posts in the adverts are from moderators trying to guide the users into the right direction. And why? Because the user haven't even read the posting guidelines!
Hopefully.
Maybe in a short time span, but in the long run I think you will benefit from it. You wrote it yourself, sometimes it even takes two hints for a user to set it straight; why not just set it straight from the first time the advert is posted?
Sorry, but I think you are overlooking the benefit of my suggestion, and maybe I'm the one to blame in not describing it well enough. Anyway, I'll just let it be at was it was; a suggestion. I'm just glad the someone has more spare time than me.
Please reread what I wrote... You have clearly overlooked something. I mentioned the WAY amigaworld.net handles their adverts, not that amibay should become like amigaworld.net.
Care to work out the percentages?
No, look it over yourself to see how many posts that has been moderated; it's only 29 adverts so far, so shouldn't take you long.
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