Amiga OS for x86?
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It has already been discussed millions of times really. It would be useless to repeat ourselves since the current developer of OS4.x has cleared out that they are going the PPC route either we like it or not.
Justin
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but you can run the ppc software os and all via WinUAE on x86 
Not really at this moment, its a begin and Tony's magic its brillant but the perfomance still green.but you can run the ppc software os and all via WinUAE on x86
Os 4 in my opinion rewrite to x86 its a dream and maybe have more contras than benefits....
All the best & Amiga4Ever
Amiten
if it went to ppc - they would not be able to sell expensive motherboards.
but if they did then they could sell buckets of licensed copied of the OS although they would need a ppc emulator or no software would run.
anyway they have already said they would not convert to x86.
hope lays with WinUAE
but if they did then they could sell buckets of licensed copied of the OS although they would need a ppc emulator or no software would run.
anyway they have already said they would not convert to x86.
hope lays with WinUAE
Why is it always people who get licenses to make AmigaOS allergic to making a marketable product?
Regardless of how you feel about them if you want to bring AmigaOS back to a useful market then its only ever going to happen via x86 (or more correctly AMD64 these days) or on the ARM platforms. No-one will invest the amount of money required to bring new PPC Amiga hardware to market in the volumes required to make it saleable - so common sense to me would dictate you do the simplest task and develop the software for commercially available off the shelf hardware.
If I ever got the full Euromillions I would love to grab the Amiga licenses and actually do something with them rather than **** in the wind like everyone has since '95...
Regardless of how you feel about them if you want to bring AmigaOS back to a useful market then its only ever going to happen via x86 (or more correctly AMD64 these days) or on the ARM platforms. No-one will invest the amount of money required to bring new PPC Amiga hardware to market in the volumes required to make it saleable - so common sense to me would dictate you do the simplest task and develop the software for commercially available off the shelf hardware.
If I ever got the full Euromillions I would love to grab the Amiga licenses and actually do something with them rather than **** in the wind like everyone has since '95...
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Justin
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being saying this since PPCs were new
(haven't I Mike?
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(haven't I Mike?
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Think I was reading not long ago that even Commodore weren't thinking of pushing the Amiga into PPC land and the next architecture would be on a HP version of the Dec Alpha, before making the probable jump into x86.
Who ever thinks it makes commercial sense to write an OS for a PC that costs £1775 to buy just the motherboard and 500mhz cpu to run it needs their heads checking. Go look around and see what sort of intel machine you can spec for that kind of money and explain to us how it could have more cons than benefits?
Who ever thinks it makes commercial sense to write an OS for a PC that costs £1775 to buy just the motherboard and 500mhz cpu to run it needs their heads checking. Go look around and see what sort of intel machine you can spec for that kind of money and explain to us how it could have more cons than benefits?
Ed.D
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HP used a lot of PA-RISC processors in their 90's machines. I used to use a C110 workstation every day and it was pretty powerful running HP-UX. It would have been great if the Amiga OS could have been ported to one of those C-Class or even the later machines like the B-Class Visualize family.
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Justin,
my dear friend....
well time we had a natter over a beer or two and i put you straight on a few things...
As much as i love obscure software and hardware.....X86 or Arm is the way to go.
arm by choice - not keen on intel or scan doublers
my dear friend....
well time we had a natter over a beer or two and i put you straight on a few things...
As much as i love obscure software and hardware.....X86 or Arm is the way to go.
arm by choice - not keen on intel or scan doublers
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protek
"Takai desu ne." -"Jinsei da."
Well, you can't stay in the niche market if you make software for hardware that is cheap and easily obtainable.
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And herein lies the problem. The Amiga market wasn't niche, not in the UK at least - it has become niche due to thinking like yours and poor management choices/decisions. 20 years ago AmigaOS was a viable alternative to Windows, today its a novelty product. I would love to still be using it but I won't pay a niche tax to support a dead unsupported OS or a company that is so blinded it would alienate a potential income stream because it wants to be Stella Artois. We already have Apple for that anyway.
Alternative? I'd venture to say that 20-odd years ago in the UK, most families in the UK had never even heard of Microsoft Windows, but we all knew Commodore and their products.
Such was the recognition, that when Escom started sticking Commodore logo badges on generic x86 boxes running Microsoft Windows 95, it got them quite a few sales on the merit of that.
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I remember when I first saw a Windows disk. I asked my friend what it was and he said it was like Workbench for a PC. And I am in the US
protek
"Takai desu ne." -"Jinsei da."
Not due to my thinking, and not by anyone else's thinking back then, I dare to say. It was simply due to poor management of Commodore. Niche doesn't become niche just by thinking it's niche.
Windows 3.x and older versions, now there was a niche from a home user's point of perspective. I've had Win3 installed onto my computer well in the early 90's and I've used the older versions already in the late 80's. From gamer's point of view there was no point of using Windows as you could and pretty much had to to anything in DOS. On the other hand I've had GEM installed on my PC. When I started studying, having Windows permanently installed began to make sense.
I have to wonder why Hyperion even bother to continue with development of OS4. How many people have actually paid for a CD? I doubt there's even 10000 users on the whole planet and sales of the X1000 can't have added much to that figure. They can't be making any money on it?
A version for x86 would have given them a vast number of potential customers, with some of them possibly being old classic Amiga users who might also be interested in an alternative to Windows, like me!
SJ
A version for x86 would have given them a vast number of potential customers, with some of them possibly being old classic Amiga users who might also be interested in an alternative to Windows, like me!
SJ
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