Morons on eBay

[RedDaemonFox]

Well today I received a plethora of increasingly stupid and rabbling messages from someone wanting to buy a paintball gun I had listed... He obviously was not right in the head, poor sod. So sit back and hopefully get a good laugh, and to remind ourselves there are some weirdos...

Here is the entire, ridiculous conversation he sent me:

So my listing was of a paintball gun with some parts missing, namely the barrel and canister. I obviously missed something from my end...


NOTE: I copied and pasted, so the typos and stuff are his doing, not mine.

Person (Need not be named):
SINCE I HAVE TO BUY REST OF GUN

Me, utterly confused:

You said: "Since I have to buy rest of gun" That doesn't make sense. Do you mean: So do I have to buy the other gun parts?

Yes, you do, the gun takes a standard spyder/JT sports threaded barrel and almost any hopper or tank type. I don't mind answering questions, but if you must ask me another, I would appreciate a clear message and not typing it all in caps, it is considered rude and obnoxious.

Thanks

Person:
Sorry sir, I am puertorican. It was never my intention to disrespect, it was just by default.I have to buy the other gun parts and will apreciate if you acept my offer. Please review my feedback and see that I am a serius buyer. Please excuse any typo error.

Me (relieved):
I apologize but I do not have the other parts to the gun. the gun was donated to me as it is, so I do not have any other parts that fit it.

Person:
I buy it as it is

Me (excited, money!):
okay, go ahead and bid on it.

I believed he wanted to just bid on it, so I got off for a while and then these next e-mails swarmed my Inbox (separated by double line space):

Person:
Done

Person:
How I pay you?

Person:
Sir I have been waiting too long and you do not have honor your word. I want you to reject my bid now due to your non aceptance of my offer and misgadance to place bid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Okay pal, you need to read ebay's :readit:, you can't make me cancel my auction after you bid by luring me into this trap....)

Person (final e-mail, leaving me rofl when I found it):

I would not pay or buy from you ever. you have been waiting for someone to increase my bid, this is not what we acorded. I AM NOT STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!


Okay, so lesson learned, never respond to message sent in caps, or with poor english. I honestly was not trying to mislead him, he must have misunderstood me....

Anyways, i am fed up with people on ebay who pull a stunt like this.

 

[abraXXious]

He obviously understood that you would cancel the auction after he made a single bid - then selling the item to him outside of eBay.

This is against eBay rules, but f&%k ebay - if a buyer and a seller have an understanding more power to them. The problem, it seems, arose when he was expecting you to end the auction immediately after his bid... yet he at no time made this clear! So, of course, you cannot be faulted for assuming he was just wanting to bid on the item.

From then on, it is simply a case of his ranting over reaction. I have had sellers OFFER to end an auction once I had placed the highest bid on an item, unwisely I did this only to find the (crooked) seller was using that simply as a way to up the ante, so to speak.

In a situation like this I like to leave it until someone outbids me, or until the 24hour until hammer fall period is about to lapse.... then retract all my bids on the item using the bid retraction form.

This then leaves the (crooked) seller with a p|ss poor bid on his item when he was expecting to make a premium.

Revenge is sweet.

 

[Templar]

Puertorican?

I assume that he's a peddler of a drugs gang and he wants this gun, but also I believe that he has something to do with cartels in South America.

 

[r0jaws]

Just because someone's grasp of the English language is poor, doesn't mean that they aren't a complete headbanger.

 

[quarkx]

It's not just e-bay though,
As a guy with an on-line store, I have noticed that the problem is some people can't be bothered to read the description of the item you are selling. Time and time again, I get the questions like "What Rom does it have? or what version of Mobo? when I strive to put that information in the description.oh:
As a seller, you can never put enough information up, but at least 50% of people won't be bothered to even read it.

On the other hand of the coin though, if you are buying, you almost have to be VERY specific on you questions. I can give 2 examples. When I fist was hunting down an A600, I found it much easier (and cheaper) to import one to Canada Piece by piece. There is a big seller on E-bay from the UK and for the most part, he is very good with his stuff, but I believe, that he is NOT an Amiga user and collector. I ordered the floppy drive bracket for the Amiga 600 from him and he sent me a bracket for an A1200. now this could be just a mistake, so I emailed him, and he informed me that they are all the same! I e-mailed back and told him that they are completely different and he said to send it back, and he will replace it. So, I sent it back, and he proceeded to send me ANOTHER A1200 bracket. So, I e-mailed him back, and sent it back, after the forth time, I just gave up (I even sent him pictures of the bracket). He swears up and down that both the hard drive cradle and the floppy drive bracket are exactly the same on the A1200 as the A600, which (if anyone has seen them) are defiantly not the same. (Actually Matt from Amigakit came to the rescue and just threw in a bracket in one of the orders- God, he is good).

Also, I when I got my first A3000, I was trying to hunt down the matching keyboard, so I asked a more local (US dealer) and he said he had a few. He then sent me an A2000 keyboard (which I had 5 of at the time). I e-mailed him about it, and he said they were "universal". So I was livid. I knew I had asked him for an A3000 keyboard, but you have to be so exact and clear on your e-mails, and almost explain what you need it for.

 

[AmiNeo]

It's not just e-bay though,
As a guy with an on-line store, I have noticed that the problem is some people can't be bothered to read the description of the item you are selling. Time and time again, I get the questions like "What Rom does it have? or what version of Mobo? when I strive to put that information in the description.oh:
As a seller, you can never put enough information up, but at least 50% of people won't be bothered to even read it.

Its quite humorous to think too, that it takes more time and energy to write a short email asking the question than it does to :RTFM: ...or in this case, auction.

They must be complete idiots to just jump in and click through all those links then type that code in just to ask a question, overlooking the text that answers it for them...

 

[Paul_s]

I seriously think a lot of people can't read these days...

"Do you post to France, Spain". Even thought the auction states UK only?!

FFS! What's the point in eBay even categorising stuff under specific countries when people can't read!

And they do it when the auction has only 5 hours left! It's been on for 7 days you sods!

 

[baddmint666]

nothing worse than trying to speak to some one who only speaks engrish sellers from china and such are the worst not to mention the 3 million years it take them to post it there must only be one postal office in china:roll:

 

[tokyoracer]

What annoyed me is I sell a game stating "OVERSEAS BUYERS MUST EMAIL ME PRIOR TO BIDDING" to quote interested persons. Some American arse starts bidding on it regardless (then wins) and I ask him why he didn't contact me before hand. I get abuse back (racial too such as "limey scumbag", etc.). I give and actually accept to transact with the guy and gave him a quote which was the exact cost without actually charging him for packing. Basically he thought it was "waaaayyyy" too much and just got more abuse and that was it.
eBay's say was in effect "forgive, forget, move on." :sigh:

 

[Buzzfuzz]

As a buyer on ebay I haven't had much problems, only thing is items seem to be in worse shape then when you look on photos, almost as if some photos are photoshopped to make it look better.

Though most items were good, there were some items that were in worse condition as described.
I won't be buying from ebay anymore unless it's something that really can't wrong.
But I won't be buying hardware anymore, unless it has a nice buy it now price.

 

[Station240]

What annoyed me is I sell a game stating "OVERSEAS BUYERS MUST EMAIL ME PRIOR TO BIDDING" to quote interested persons.

Yeah, I've taken to contacting the seller with "Well the last one of these wanted from your country was quoted x for postage". The the average ebay user wouldn't know how to use their own country's postage calculator website much less someone elses.

Still the biggest morons on ebay are the staff, I hope whoever writes those nasty account related emails gets some horrible fungal disease in his fingernails and his hair falls out.

 

[cosmicfrog]

tokyoracer if someone used abuseage while I was doing a business transaction I would be seeking leagal recorse but just how one would go about that I don`t know

 

[grahamit]

I get annoyed at people who try to offer an obviously poor price for something if the seller will end the auction early. Prime example on here;

Link removed as it was to a non-BIN for an Amiga A1200 Accelerator Blizzard 1260 50Mhz - 32mb RAM

Poor guy has a great peice of kit to sell, and look at the "Questions and answers about this item" section. Not one, but two people trying to get him to end early. I am not the seller in this case, and have no affiliation with him, but I keep on seeing it.

Granted I know prices can get crazy on ebay, but thats no excuse for this sort of behaviour. Grrrrr

Anyone else had this on their listings? or is the culpret here?

 

[bobpard]

I seriously think a lot of people can't read these days...

"Do you post to France, Spain". Even thought the auction states UK only?!

FFS! What's the point in eBay even categorising stuff under specific countries when people can't read!

And they do it when the auction has only 5 hours left! It's been on for 7 days you sods!

thats my biggest bugbear on ebay, many times i have stated UK only in massive letters at the start of the auction only to find it has been won by someone in another country and they have already paid me for the uk postage without checking what it would be to send abroad.
finally realised that you can block bidders from other countries, so the only time i did that i ended up unblocking the ad to send to someone in australia - the moral of the story is that ebay buying and selling never goes to plan

 

[AmiNeo]

As a buyer on ebay I haven't had much problems, only thing is items seem to be in worse shape then when you look on photos, almost as if some photos are photoshopped to make it look better.

Though most items were good, there were some items that were in worse condition as described.
I won't be buying from ebay anymore unless it's something that really can't wrong.
But I won't be buying hardware anymore, unless it has a nice buy it now price.

The trouble with descriptions though is that it's one persons opinion.
Good condition, X out of X, even 'better than the picture does justice' is all just the sellers opinion based on what he sees from his perspective. eg. A 70 year old car that no longer runs without black smoke pouring out of its rear could be described as in excellent condition as most cars that age no longer exist. . But someone else may expect it to be running as if it were nearly new.

I dont sell on Ebay much, just when I have something I need some fast money for and can't shift it to friends or a game shop, but I used to have a few ppl occasionally offer me rediculous prices to close early too. Because of this, these days I almost always list at fixed price when I do with a best offer. That way if people want to ask me to close early they can just throw their offer in. If its not reasonable, it gets rejected automatically and I dont have to bother replying.

 

[nkarytia]

It is all a matter of common sense. What do you expect and for how much. It does not happen only on ebay, but elsewhere too. Also when you sell, you have to be prepared for almost anything. It is the same as insane people enetering your shop asking for anything you can imagine (we sell SCANIA (not on ebay) trucks and a shortie came in asking to make new keys for his car (still wonder if he was joking or preparing for something else)).

 

[AmigaRevolution]

Ebay is for the amature. To many people lack the love for the hobby. The truly dedicated I found will come here. Honesty, truth and love to all who support vintage computing to further historical preservation; most importantly to further our understanding of the computer of today!
Through the use of Amiga's which are vintage, up to supporting new Amiga hardware, which does not support the domination of large corporations like Microsoft, we are all helping to fight the New World Order.

If Money is the goal of someone in this hobby. That's ok! Make sure that you truly love this sport of ours first, before money. Ebay is a corporation with one concern, the almighty dollar. Here my goal is love and education!

Eat that Ebay and Microsoft! Let's help make Amibay bigger! We help by helping others, for the love of Amiga and all who love our favorite past time!

 

[ColourWheel64]

Hiya guys. Hope you don't mind me joining in the conversation.

I have a love/hate relationship with ebay. Most of the time I see items sell for way over what I'd say they're worth (Panzer Dragoon Saga or a Blizzard 1260??), every now and then you find precisely what you've been after (for years) at an incredible price and that's why I'm hooked. It always seems to go something like; I've been searching for what feels like aeons for something and just as I'm about to vow never to open the site again, I come across something. Mint condition. 0.01p, in the wee hours of the morning. Sometimes it'll bring a tear to my eye that just for that one moment, all that tedious searching has amounted to something.

I ain't half glad that I found AmiBay though. People have a great attitude. Its like not having room for a pet and making sure it gets a new owner that's going to care for it. Half the reason I hoard so much is due to being worried about items falling into the wrong hands.

 

[fitzsteve]

Hiya guys. Hope you don't mind me joining in the conversation.

I have a love/hate relationship with ebay. Most of the time I see items sell for way over what I'd say they're worth (Panzer Dragoon Saga or a Blizzard 1260??), every now and then you find precisely what you've been after (for years) at an incredible price and that's why I'm hooked. It always seems to go something like; I've been searching for what feels like aeons for something and just as I'm about to vow never to open the site again, I come across something. Mint condition. 0.01p, in the wee hours of the morning. Sometimes it'll bring a tear to my eye that just for that one moment, all that tedious searching has amounted to something.

I ain't half glad that I found AmiBay though. People have a great attitude. Its like not having room for a pet and making sure it gets a new owner that's going to care for it. Half the reason I hoard so much is due to being worried about items falling into the wrong hands.

+1

That pretty much sums it all up for me too

 

[smilertoo]

I didnt know you could retract bids.