Retr0bright Support Thread
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I know; it's just that Doomy usually makes such an epic case for the kit he is selling being so "mint condition - I always washed my hands before using this computer, etc." to demand a massive price, that part of the reason we made Retr0bright open source was to screw his world up....
SkydivinGirl
Retro Girl
Earl Evans on the Retrobits Podcast mentioned Retr0bright on his latest Podcast. You should check out his show if you have never listened to his Podcast. 
Heather
Heather
Just tried it on a PS1 to make sure it wouldn't destroy it (I dunno, if the peroxide reacted with that weird gluten substitute thing I put in) - prior to treatment it had either yellowed slightly in one place, or it had a coffee stain on it. It didn't do any difference, so I suspect it's actually just a tough coffee stain (couldn't get it off with oven cleaner ). I left it in the greenhouse for around 30 hours.
Will try it on something yellowed a lot more now I know it's safe
). I left it in the greenhouse for around 30 hours.Will try it on something yellowed a lot more now I know it's safe
The results are ok, the unit looks a lot whiter!!
But I am kind of stubburn and agree with merlin, more expensive units on ebay in mint condition.
Will post one pic today without kitchen products with the same unit, and the same next day or day after ok? Going to experiment a little, since this unit is small, it fits in a small space to soap. Might not get results, but hey that's me.. not in line with others...
For me the threatment sounds to expensive..At least for the large plastic parts I wan't to threat..
Not doubting that it works, but hey if my experimets work I could use it for other computers to, that are more difficult to dissamble, and would use to much expensive product...
Here is mine:
But I am kind of stubburn and agree with merlin, more expensive units on ebay in mint condition.
Will post one pic today without kitchen products with the same unit, and the same next day or day after ok? Going to experiment a little, since this unit is small, it fits in a small space to soap. Might not get results, but hey that's me.. not in line with others...
For me the threatment sounds to expensive..At least for the large plastic parts I wan't to threat..
Not doubting that it works, but hey if my experimets work I could use it for other computers to, that are more difficult to dissamble, and would use to much expensive product...
Here is mine:
I don't like much that I can't show off, but must admit my results for know are rather limited.
Not giving up already, but ordered the real thing already, if this experimenting does not work out ok
Here it is, two different substantce's, cost price, but recycled the products for other use would be around 1,5 eu already
TIP: Don't use whater above 90 degrees, and yes for the small result(s) the camera is on manual, so no color difference to be explained by tweaking a little bit by me, see the exif data to make sure
Not giving up already, but ordered the real thing already, if this experimenting does not work out okHere it is, two different substantce's, cost price, but recycled the products for other use would be around 1,5 eu already
TIP: Don't use whater above 90 degrees, and yes for the small result(s) the camera is on manual, so no color difference to be explained by tweaking a little bit by me, see the exif data to make sure
Hmmm. From my understanding of GCSE physics - Glass gets rid of a LOT of uv - someone correct me if I am wrong here? I think in the UK, direct sunlight is much better, especially at this time of year with a low uv index anyway.
You are correct, although how much actual sunshine we get in't Grim North is debatable....in Manchester, the rain just gets warmer or colder, depending on the season...
Outside is best, inside under a UV lamp is a poor second.
Ok, I'm almost ready to start my experiment with retr0bright: I will use container with 6-7 liters of H2O2, so how many Vanish I have to use?
1 & 1/2 teaspoonful or more? :roll:
1 & 1/2 teaspoonful or more? :roll:
Ok 
Since I ordered the real stuff, need to pick it up, I forgot about my experiment. Wanting to find a kitchen product. What we call "javel" or "bleech" did not give me much results, but out of the blue I noticed that my plastics are getting white spots, (not talking about a sticker loosing, finding a white spot)
But hey look at my first posting time it won't be a quick cure if it is going to completely bleech in time. (I am going to wait a couple of weeks)
I've added some UV light to see if this helps with my kitchen product to..
Well it's not the strongest bleecher "javel" product around in the bucket, and it's mixed 50% with rainwater.
But hey look at my first posting time it won't be a quick cure if it is going to completely bleech in time. (I am going to wait a couple of weeks)
I've added some UV light to see if this helps with my kitchen product to..
Well it's not the strongest bleecher "javel" product around in the bucket, and it's mixed 50% with rainwater.
@jvdbossc
you shouldn't use bleach - heres why
Chlorine is above Bromine in the perodic table ->
What happens when you use chlorine is that the smaller atom suplants one another, thats to say you swap a bromine out for a clorine as its higher up in the element table.
In the short term it may make your plasic look brigher - however it will slowly bring on a yellowness as the Chlorine protinates with an Oxygen, although it may not be as bad as the bromine.
images from retr0bright wiki
Unfortauntely using chlorine destroys the ABS plastic (as you are removing the Bromine atom) this will make it brittle over a short period of time as the polymer compounds migrate. It is also common for it to bloom white spots where there was none before.
have a read here about the chlorinated approach
you shouldn't use bleach - heres why
Chlorine is above Bromine in the perodic table ->
What happens when you use chlorine is that the smaller atom suplants one another, thats to say you swap a bromine out for a clorine as its higher up in the element table.
In the short term it may make your plasic look brigher - however it will slowly bring on a yellowness as the Chlorine protinates with an Oxygen, although it may not be as bad as the bromine.
images from retr0bright wiki
Unfortauntely using chlorine destroys the ABS plastic (as you are removing the Bromine atom) this will make it brittle over a short period of time as the polymer compounds migrate. It is also common for it to bloom white spots where there was none before.
have a read here about the chlorinated approach
Zetro,
It looks like I did not find an alternative product then
I am going to pick up the original posted product overhere at a pharmacy I have a plastic swimming pool for 2 year olds to fit in my A1000 plastics. (tight fit)
The pharmacy was really helpfull how to handle the product.
I don't know anything about chemistry to be honest, I just got exited about the white spots costing not much EU.
Will of course have a good read before doing anything, since I see every day passing a handicapt chemist at my front door..
Jurgen
It looks like I did not find an alternative product then
I am going to pick up the original posted product overhere at a pharmacy
I have a plastic swimming pool for 2 year olds to fit in my A1000 plastics. (tight fit)The pharmacy was really helpfull how to handle the product.
I don't know anything about chemistry to be honest, I just got exited about the white spots
costing not much EU.Will of course have a good read before doing anything, since I see every day passing a handicapt chemist at my front door..
Jurgen
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Here's a link to a page by Giacomo at Vecchicomputer.com, showing his experiences with Retr0bright. The site is in Italian, but Google translates it pretty well.
http://www.vecchicomputer.com/retr0bright/
He has also kindly translated the main text of Retr0bright into Italian for us, so I've added a link to his site in Further Reading on the Wiki site.
http://www.vecchicomputer.com/retr0bright/
He has also kindly translated the main text of Retr0bright into Italian for us, so I've added a link to his site in Further Reading on the Wiki site.
Merlin,
If you know a belgian user who has done it according to the wiki you and others made, please inform me, since I sourced the stuff and the oxi, but don't have any idea to source the stuff to make it non fluid. (able to paint it..)
I was thinking about hair gell, but it might not be a good idea.. I also do not wan't to mix it with my mixer..
I am afraid my bleecher experiment is exactly showing of some distruction.. (it's getting whiter but it's kind of decomposing a little)
The price for a 30% solution was also a little overtop at least for me
Jurgen,
If you know a belgian user who has done it according to the wiki you and others made, please inform me, since I sourced the stuff and the oxi, but don't have any idea to source the stuff to make it non fluid. (able to paint it..)
I was thinking about hair gell, but it might not be a good idea.. I also do not wan't to mix it with my mixer..
I am afraid my bleecher experiment is exactly showing of some distruction.. (it's getting whiter but it's kind of decomposing a little)
The price for a 30% solution was also a little overtop at least for me
Jurgen,
Jurgen,
Try adding some wallpaper paste to the peroxide solution once you've diluted it to 10%.
Wallpaper paste is starch based and will be safe to use with peroxide and compatible, whilst forming a good gel structure. It's easy to get hold of too
Don't worry, you won't blow your house up!!
Here's where the Belgians could suddenly find themselves at the cutting edge of Retr0bright research....
Try adding some wallpaper paste to the peroxide solution once you've diluted it to 10%.
Wallpaper paste is starch based and will be safe to use with peroxide and compatible, whilst forming a good gel structure. It's easy to get hold of too
Don't worry, you won't blow your house up!!
Here's where the Belgians could suddenly find themselves at the cutting edge of Retr0bright research....