Apple iPad mini
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Dude.. Really?
I have been in IT since 1992, foremost technical roles and more managerial currently, yet always hands on and technology driven .. so please allow me to say that your comment is off. I prefer my MacBook over any Windows based laptop. Played with Android phones and observed how free yet unreliable it is. The Microsoft Exchange part I won't even start harping on about as it blows on Android. No control over apps and half of them do not work on your particular device or even harvesting personal data.. or worse.. I agree you can do 7 out of 10 things an Android based OS or Windows box can do, but at least those things work 10 out of 10 times. So for private use I like Macs more and for business iPhones more.. But do not call Apple users technology challenged..
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The reason is that next year it will come with an A6 and some other small change.. That will be the iPad Mini S .. and then the year after we chuck in Retina and call that the iPad Mini2 .. and that my friend is called marketing 1-o-1
I'd agree that Macs are probably better for "less technically-minded" people than a Windows or Linux system would be, but I don't think that therefore implies they are no good for "more technically-minded" people.
I far prefer Macs over Windows or Linux systems for desktop use. The experience is just so much nicer. It's hard to quantify, but the whole look and feel of Mac OS just feels much cleaner, simpler and more elegant than anything else.
And that's great for my web browsing and email needs, but when I need to get some work done, I fire up Terminal to SSH to servers...
I far prefer Macs over Windows or Linux systems for desktop use. The experience is just so much nicer. It's hard to quantify, but the whole look and feel of Mac OS just feels much cleaner, simpler and more elegant than anything else.
And that's great for my web browsing and email needs, but when I need to get some work done, I fire up Terminal to SSH to servers...
I am right there with you Andy!
The stuff just works and the overall experience is just way better.. the Macs adapt to the user, not the other way around. I had Win7 in a VM on the iMac and oddly enough it worked much smoother than on my Corporate HP EliteBook
One of my guys (Admin) uses Linux/Ubuntu a lot but has a MacBook.. I think he uses terminal connectivity tools on it too.. so should work I guess.. anyhow, that is in my past and I let the boys figure that one out :roll:
The stuff just works and the overall experience is just way better.. the Macs adapt to the user, not the other way around. I had Win7 in a VM on the iMac and oddly enough it worked much smoother than on my Corporate HP EliteBook
One of my guys (Admin) uses Linux/Ubuntu a lot but has a MacBook.. I think he uses terminal connectivity tools on it too.. so should work I guess.. anyhow, that is in my past and I let the boys figure that one out :roll:
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I'm a Windows XP die-hard, but I will say that OSX is hands-down the most pleasant Unix I've ever tried.
Not that there's a lot of competition.
This is what I meant. I did not mean to imply that to use an Apple product you are technically inept, rather than if I find myself helping someone sort out their IT lives, or they ask my advice, I try and assess their capability and what they want to do.
If they are not great at tech, and want to do what the Apple ranges offer, and they can afford it, that is what I recommend. It makes my life easier.
Recently I helped a couple buy an iMac, ipad, and iphone, let them set it up and get on with it.
I knew they didn't give a fig about "under the hood", already had an ipod touch (which they liked) and wanted to stay in touch easily whilst abroad. Cue recommendation for Apple products.
Other friends with less cash I have set up with Android and Windows and they are perfectly happy too.
iRetrOVolver, It would be nice if occasionally someone who enjoys their tech products wouldn't get so defensive, assume criticism where none exists, and then attack other platforms with cliched arguments.
I don't want to bang on about Windows being a poor user experience but in my option it is. I'm just sick to death of it and every single person I know feels the same. I've converted most of my family to Apple and without exception I haven't had one complaint.
One brother still sticks to vista tho ...
I've just had it back again after various toolbars stopped the net working and the antivirus was off line and reporting an error.
So..for me and I know a lot about Windows from 3.1 to 8 - osx every time.
But that's just my option chaps.
But back to the mini ...
Erm forgot the question now
One brother still sticks to vista tho ...
I've just had it back again after various toolbars stopped the net working and the antivirus was off line and reporting an error.
So..for me and I know a lot about Windows from 3.1 to 8 - osx every time.
But that's just my option chaps.
But back to the mini ...
Erm forgot the question now
I'm the complete opposite of all you Apple fanboi's Love Windows 7 and it is perfect for my needs. I hate the way OSX works, and how many tasks are performed feels old fashioned to me. But that is the thing. Each person likes something different. Both OSX and Windows can be used to achieve most goals, it just depends which you prefer.
I do like the build quality of the Macbooks and would love to own one if they were not such silly money. I would however probably just run Windows 7 on it though.
The other main rub for me is a lack of software on the Mac, even though Mac users will argue until they are blue in the face that it isn't true. Emulators and Games for Windows cannot be matched, and there is a lot of productivity software unavailable on the Mac.
Anyway, back on topic...
The mini is looking even more dated and overpriced now. Google have now announced the Nexus 10, a 10 inch tablet running 4.2, and the nexus 7 has been upgraded to 32GB for the same 199 price, plus a 3/4G version is also being released.
The Nexus 7 is also now officially the best selling tablet of all time in the UK and selling well in the US too. Reports indicate Asus are now shifting over 1 million Nexus 7 a month and their profits have shot up.
Love Windows 7 and it is perfect for my needs. I hate the way OSX works, and how many tasks are performed feels old fashioned to me. But that is the thing. Each person likes something different. Both OSX and Windows can be used to achieve most goals, it just depends which you prefer. I do like the build quality of the Macbooks and would love to own one if they were not such silly money. I would however probably just run Windows 7 on it though.
The other main rub for me is a lack of software on the Mac, even though Mac users will argue until they are blue in the face that it isn't true. Emulators and Games for Windows cannot be matched, and there is a lot of productivity software unavailable on the Mac.
Anyway, back on topic...
The mini is looking even more dated and overpriced now. Google have now announced the Nexus 10, a 10 inch tablet running 4.2, and the nexus 7 has been upgraded to 32GB for the same 199 price, plus a 3/4G version is also being released.
The Nexus 7 is also now officially the best selling tablet of all time in the UK and selling well in the US too. Reports indicate Asus are now shifting over 1 million Nexus 7 a month and their profits have shot up.
I'm also quite happy with Win 7 on my home PC, not perfect of course but good enough for me.
Nexus 10 looks very nice but it's too much $$$ for me, wish they'd gone for a 10" with Nexus 7 specs. It's now a toss-up between a Nexus 7 and Fire HD.
Nexus 10 looks very nice but it's too much $$$ for me, wish they'd gone for a 10" with Nexus 7 specs. It's now a toss-up between a Nexus 7 and Fire HD.
Definitely get the Nexus 7 over the Kindle Fire HD. Hardware is better in the Nexus, and you are locked into and restricted on the Fire because it is a custom version of Android 2.3 and you have to do everything through Amazon, not Google Play.
Nexus 7 is also about to get the 4.2 update too. And being a Nexus product will get new OS releases a long time before any other device.
Nexus 7 is also about to get the 4.2 update too. And being a Nexus product will get new OS releases a long time before any other device.
The big area that the Mac lacks is emulation and some games and hacking tools. I use a PC for those and I can see why people buy pc's. Mac will never replace pc's in the main because windows is the default os.
Having said that , we can dual boot to windows if its needed, so it's not a problem.
Back to the mini , Apple tend to update every year and while this mini is nothing special I'm sure it will mature. Apple tend to hold things back and drip feed new tech on products every year. Most annoying but I can see why.
Fanboi ? Yes I suppose I am. I enjoy Amiga products and I enjoy apple products , I can't say the same for windows sadly.
Having said that , we can dual boot to windows if its needed, so it's not a problem.
Back to the mini , Apple tend to update every year and while this mini is nothing special I'm sure it will mature. Apple tend to hold things back and drip feed new tech on products every year. Most annoying but I can see why.
Fanboi ? Yes I suppose I am. I enjoy Amiga products and I enjoy apple products , I can't say the same for windows sadly.
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I had the opportunity to try the 3rd gen IPad and I found it ok. It looks and feels good. I must have somewhat engineer oriented way of using things as I had to google a lot of things about how to do something with the IPad. I wouldn't mind having an IPad as a surfboard and there are a few apps that I'd probably like but then again I'd probably be missing the possibility to run emulators and such that is possible with an open architecture OS like Android.
iRetrOVolver, It would be nice if occasionally someone who enjoys their tech products wouldn't get so defensive, assume criticism where none exists, and then attack other platforms with cliched arguments.
r0jaws, I admit that albeit my response being somewhat fierce(r) than intended and foremost due to the constant bashing of others on the Apple Ecosystem (so apologies if I stepped on anyone's toes), I do not think the cross references are cliched. Due to my role and resources, I have broad access to anything new coming out and that includes Android tablets and what not. Nexus 7 I bought even as an impulse, yet found it disappointing as all the other Android excursion of the past.
But let me say that I respect anyone's choice or preference as much as I respect churches and religion.. but it is not for me ;-)
I agree that Android users have had to see the os develop over time, from a functional but clunky phone os up to 2.2. Since then it has slowly been coming together and getting better and better. Every point release since that has seen large improvements to functionality, ui and fluidity during use. But it hasn't been until the recent release of 4.1 Jelly Bean that Android has really matured fully. I personally think it is now finally has surpassed ios.
All that matters now is which os you prefer, and which ecosystem you want to adopt. I personally prefer Android 4.1+ completely over ios. I think it's icon centric front end is now feeling very dated, and Android's approach of having all the apps tucked away, allowing you to customize your homescreens with exactly the icons and widgets you want is much better and a much more intuitive and nicer way of working. I also love the way apps purchased for one android device can be downloaded again on every device. Do Apple allow the same? Or do you have to purchase them again each time.
Others will prefer the way ios does things, and that is why competition and choice is good.
Finally, so many techy people prefer Android because of its Linux roots, and the fact Google have kept it free and unrestricted.
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All that matters now is which os you prefer, and which ecosystem you want to adopt. I personally prefer Android 4.1+ completely over ios. I think it's icon centric front end is now feeling very dated, and Android's approach of having all the apps tucked away, allowing you to customize your homescreens with exactly the icons and widgets you want is much better and a much more intuitive and nicer way of working. I also love the way apps purchased for one android device can be downloaded again on every device. Do Apple allow the same? Or do you have to purchase them again each time.
Others will prefer the way ios does things, and that is why competition and choice is good.
Finally, so many techy people prefer Android because of its Linux roots, and the fact Google have kept it free and unrestricted.
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Apple is the same with downloads, once its downloaded it works on all your devices.
i bought defender of the crown on a whim...its not nice to use really, its still a mouse driven game in an emulator but anyway. i can play it on my ipod or iphone or tablet if i was really that bored.
i bought defender of the crown on a whim...its not nice to use really, its still a mouse driven game in an emulator but anyway. i can play it on my ipod or iphone or tablet if i was really that bored.
They've started down this road with OSX too. My app store account has OSX 10.8, iLife and iWork registered to it, and I can install these on any Macs I own.
